^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ^* *^ ^* Tap.Interviews II *^ ^* The Infiltrater *^ ^* *^ ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Ok, I might as well reveal myself to you all now. I am really Sharp razor of LOD fame. In this file I am interviewing Lex Luther, we can get to see what the REAL Lex is like. Here we are: ME:Hey Vinny, whats up? AN:Hey dude, whats that? Hey, thats a nice walkman let me see... ME: NO! Get away from it. I... sorry... its just that I'm protective about my walkman... AN:Ok, I understand. ME:So Vinny, tell me about yout latest files. AN:You want to know about my files! $Ok!$I typed in 183 more$manuals into $LOD$ $text-files. Some$preety good stuff$to. ME:Um, how come when you talk with all these '$'s? $AN$:$And I'm gonna$type 54$more...What? oh, sorry, I always get like that when I talk about my ELITE files... So what were you saying? ME:Ok, I understand, anyway whats going on in LOD lately? AN:$LOD$!Well$ we... oh... sorry... um, LOD is doing fine, we have created our own little world of Elite BBSs. All of them are LOD only, you should see the incredible info, so many codes! And we have succeded in populating these ELITE $LOD$, um I mean Elite LOD boards with complete know-nothings. ME:Sounds preety Elite. Oh shit, my walkman... hold on.. *&&%^&*PIYHIOYB C)*UAJHFD"LF.... ok, fixed it... So, is LOD's Public relations going? AN:Elite... Totally ELite, everyone loves us, its great... people who know A LOT more than us, tell us everything they know about phreak/hack, all we do is out them through our filter to get info out of them... Its Elite... ME:Cool, I've heard a lot of rumours going around lately about your accomplishments, could you tell me about them? AN:Well to start with, some people are trying to take away my credit for inventing the blue box. I mean, you think Joe Engressia did it by himself? He was fucking blind! I told him what to do. Of course, I gave ole' Al Bell that idea about using acid to the get the telephone to work. Of course, that never could have happened if I hadn't invented the light bulb, I don't know why I gave Edison the credit... You know those rumours that I wrote all of Shakesphere's works aren't true. Lets just say I dictated... I don't know though, sometimes I think I should have given my military advice to the turks instead of Alexander the Great... About the pc world though, the Woz and I are good friends, I did him a favour once, gave away a computer I had invented, but I didn't like to much, some thingy with a 6502, um... Apple 2 I think he called it. Of course after that I went on and made that other computer, the one with the 8088, uh, pc something they called it... And then - ME:OK! Enough, I'm running out of tape - uh, I mean time, I gotta go... I have some typing to do... AN:Oh, really? on what? ME:Oh, just a little file, you know... $Well$dudes$you$just$read$a$very$Elite$interview$!!! And now an interview with Executive Hacker, of CEO ME:Hey dude, how's The Chief Executive Officers? AN:Well, we just wrote some more about our opinions on everything technical, ever.... ME:Oh, I hear you've been kinda out of the BBS world except to release your files? AN:Oh, well, not really, we stay in touch... ME:Hey, by the way do you have Ultima IV docs? AN:Haha, very funny. ME:What do you mean "very funny"? AN:I meant no one even has Ultima IV, much less the docs, when do you think it will be released? ME:um, exec, Ultima IV has been around a few months.. seriously... AN:WHAT?!?! You're kidding?!?!?! ME:Look, forget it, back to our discussion, I heard you were running a board on Tele-cat software? AN:Ult. IV!? released? What? Oh, I think The Byte should be releasing version 1.0 of that program soon. ME:um, exec, its... oh forget it. You said you stayed in touch, with who? AN:Oh, no one special... well, actually Corprate Criminal... and... no one. ME:Oh, Corprate Criminal of CEO? AN:Yes ME:So, who else is in CEO? AN:Corprate Criminal. ME:And? AN:ME. ME:And? AN:Well, thats about all.. in fact, that is all. ME:Ok, I gotta run now, nice talking to ya... AN:Later, is Ult. IV really released yet? forget it. ME:later... Ok, in case you're too stupid, what I am trying to say is that LOD is a group of egotistical fools, and CEO, even though they know a lot(all 2 of them) don't know whats going on... later... Don't you just love the Elites? I do, in fact, I love them so much that: --------------------------------THE ELITE FILE--------------------------------- June 2nd, 1986 Ok, I have just read the "SpecElite 1980-85" disk and I writing partially in response to it, but also because the things I am going to say have been building up inside me for a long time. To start, "The Doc", who is the sysop of SpecElite claims to be "Elite" all over the place. He tells us of the hard way to "Eliteness" and how he finally learned the ropes of Piracy. Very funny. The first thing I would like to establish, before I go any further is that Piracy is not a "skill" not a "talent" and takes no effort. Kraking is another matter and takes a slight amount of skill, but to call Aes and Cfurs and "distribute warez!", which is what most of out present "Elites" do, means nothing. The Doctor has no programing skills, no hacking talent, and no phreaking knowledge, his main claim to fame is that he used to run a kool cat-fur/Pirate BBS(he claims it was the first!HA!). It is so easy to become Elite now, with all these low I.Q. new warez kids running aroung, who are looking for pirates to ass kiss it is relatively easy to build up a following. Now I won't get into the "To spot a rodent look for 'K00l' and 'C0dezz'" syndrome which so many people writing rodent files are doing, seriously its the people that concern themselves with that type of thing that are assholes (then why am I wasting my time doing this?).note:here "Elite", means Elite Pirate, not Elite phreak. I would also like to mention that people that make garbage wares, (ie: take-1 movies, parrot songdisks, and other no-skill/talent necessary items) are the lowest, they are just out to get their name better known in piracy. And, whatever you do, don't respect me for writing this... Lets take a case that just came to my mind... for instance, "Monty Python" of 516. Monty started out in Oct. 85(yes! 85!) as "Hockey Nut". Wow, he was a total moron, posting about snoppy and whatnot on boards. Ok, so then he changed his handle to "Monty Python" and put up The Flying Circus Ae, which later became a BBS. Monty had his BBS up for a few weeks, when he decided he was ready to be *ELITE*. Ok, his board had been pitiful, with D&D games, etc. Well, the Elite board was even worse, the new user p.w was NONE. Ok, this was an Apple-net, what is the usually new -user login? Exactly, but Monty insisted that it was a p/w he had put in. In fact he actually posted on boards "New user p/w:None". Well he met Taran King of the 2600 club (No way associated with 2600 magazine), and got in (it was because he was a sysop). Anyway, to make a long story short, he got on a few phreak board, was on Stronghold East *ELITE*, and posted a notice retiring from the "phreak world". As far as I'm concerned he was never in it. Back to SpecElite though, I know you were all iritated by the 'SpecElite [###-###-####]' well the # is 213-391-6835. who cares... Anyway I am supposed to be telling what I think about modems, eh... In my *ELITE* opinion, if you put up a transfer board, and especially an "Elite only" transfer board(cough, cough, Blackwater..) you are an asshole. Pirating is total crap, every lose loves to post his theory on why the wares stopped flowing, who cares? I got my modem in June '84, now back then... well actually when I think about it it sucked. It was when all the k00l California pirates were emerging and when pirating was at its peak. Today, its a lot worse and lible to become more so. All these Elite boards are popping up all over all "$LOD$: Invitation only".HA! SpecElite is the worst, to get on you have to "know someone from the Spectrum." I talked with the doc, and he knows NOTHING! What should I talk about now... hm... Why don't I talk about my hometown scene for a while, NYC... I believe a lot of you have heard of TAP meetings, Chesire Catalyst, the same guy who founded TAP mag., holds them(call 212-JOY-LILY for more info). Anyway, Today , as you have probably heard from "TAP.INTERVIEWS" the meetings have degenerated, Chesire is a tired old man, Broadway Hacker, who is an obnoxious slob anyway, stopped going, the "950 codes kids" Ninja NYC and his pals have mostly moved on, thought NYC still attends. Ok Ninja is, at 17 yrs. old, a complete criminal, the guy has stolen everything you can think of, I'd love to see what he has hidden under his bed... The two Sigmunds Frauds also attend(they are partners) one is an skinny asshole who has an earing and the other I never spoke to, but he is the one who supposedly does all the bbs calling. There is also some friend of Ninja's who works for Northern Telcom. Ok, then there is Number 6, this guy is about 40ish, but from what I have heard is AWESOME, really knows boxes, etc. is supposed to be working on some new box which traces calls. There is some young guy with a French accent who always smiles, and some middle aged fag who is always talking. Then there is MARK! Yes Mark, though he tries to be friendly, people try to stay away. He works as a Camera man, but is working on his locksmith license (knows EVERYTHING about lockpicking). He is slightly (very) unbalanced mentally, and always very confused. He is teased constantly but tolerated. There are also a few less important people, such as "Sid" some greasy kid who is proud to have had a $1700+ fone bill because he thought he was using a divertor. Right now, they are generally a motley bunch. Also they get kicked out of restaurants frequently now, and are now down to meeting at Burger King. How pitiful... Another thing about NY, you guys have all heard of Lord Digital? And Phantom Access? Well LD used to have a cult following in NY, it was very funny, you should have seen some of the rumours, such as the "screamer" an apple-cat program that could blow up another modem by emiting a 9600 baud carrier, sure... Also He and Paul Maud'ib got killed a few times, arrested, went bankrupt, made a fortune, and several other minor things... About Phantom Access, ok by now we have confirmed that it does exist, only whoever has it isn't giving it out, I don't have it, and I dont' know anyone who does. I can't understand how it wasn't given out! What kind of rodents kept it secret? Well don't fret I am going to write my own hacker/scanner, etc in C language (LD would be proud, he supposedly loves C). Ahh... What I really want to say any how is that unless you really love computers and telephones, I mean are really dedicated to them, then I hope your modem blows up. The age of Hackers has passed because everyone has gotten a computer to use for word processors, etc. I am very young and I really love programming and learning about computers and when I look to find kindred spirt, I find the likes of "Monty Python". I still have more to say though. I would like to talk about Phrack, TWCB, Stronghold East, Private Sector, 2600 and some other things. Actually, all I have to say about TWCB, is that they are child molesters, who promised to re-publish TAP, but are in jail now so it doesn't look to likely that they will. They got busted for carding, and are incredible delinquents. I also talked to Bootleg, and he said that are never ever going to publish TAP, they were never serious about it in the first place, and are just a bunch of stupid kids. Also, Phrack really sucks, if any of you know anything about anything technical you know that the plagerize ALL their stuff off Telephony magazines and books, and they don't understand the stuff themselves. It great to read if you want to end up feeling very melancholy about life. They also reject anything original and not plagerized (I know from experience). Also Taran King is a loser, his father beat him up and the police had to drag him away, nice work. His board, Metalshop Elite(ha!) is awful, I am on it , and its really sad. Another work of Fart is Stronghold East, the Sysop, the "Equilizer" is scared to touch his board, "The Slayer" runs it for him, and won't let anyone on who he thinks doesn't know about the latest PBX, or whatever rodent nonsense. I said I would talk about 2600 magazine, well it sucks, it never was any good, Private Sector sucks also. Many people don't know this, but PS always did suck, I have buffers of it and it was mostly "codes" messages (ie: "Got sum metroz?"). Their only merit is that they are very militant about phreak's rights, and sysop's rights to have what they want on their boards, nice work in that respect. As for phreaking on the Private Sector, forget it, its garbage... Some other boards worthy of mention, are The Inner View, and The Jailhouse, I chose these because they are prime examples of shit. To begin with, The Inner View (617-632-9330) is ALL codes, people ask such burning questions as: "Can I make Blue Box tones with my micromodem?" "Does Sprint really Trace?" ,"How do you start a Confrence?" and "Is Coca-Cola a good contraceptive?" The Sysop takes it all very seriously and has even selected a panel of 7 people to judge who is c00l enough to get on the board. Another doozie is The Jailhouse(305-788-6354), on this one, you get post only access to the phreak subs (their are 5. why? don't ask me, the sysop is a turd). You have to post some of "The latest phreak info" first to get read access. Obviously the sysop has been mislead, what he wants is PBX's so he can start confrences. He doesn't understand that a phreak board consists of a technical disscussion of telephony, not "phreak info". Also, The Speed Demon Elite (415-522-3074) is another good one, the sysop devoted half the bbs to music, has a limit of 10 messages per sub, and calls it "Elite only" <> I could on for ages, if you really want to see what goes on, call some of the BBSs in NYC, wow! What GARBAGE! Its all warez!1!11! and my favorite: The War Board! How many of you have seen a war board? This invention was a step backwards for homo sapien... Here people prove themselves at "ragging". Many people consider this a skill, I had the pleasure of d/loading the e-mail volume from a board called the forge, and while looking through it, I saw some very intresting things. People were having disscussions through e-mail about who was good at wars. somewhere along the line, rodents have picked up the idea that you can "win" a modem war. How? Its hard enough to fight one, I mean what do you do? Throw names at each other, well actually, if you really want to know, thats exactly what you do. <>. I have seen people I thought were cool actually take modem wars seriously, its amazing, let me tell you about a real encounter I had with some loser. Somehow, he decided he wanted to "war" with me. So he posted a message declaring war. Well when I didn't bother to respond, he got even more excited, and started his "ragging", well for a few monthes, this guy actually, in his own demented mind thought he was "hurting" me by posting on the war board, that I really cared, he simply couldn't believe me when I said I don't care, he still thinks I'm scarred of his "ragging" abilities(after all he might rag me out dude!). Hmm, what else do I have to say. The Infiltrator, author of TAP.INTERVIEWS, some think he is actually Sharp Razor, ah that brings me to my next subject, LOD... As we all know, LOD stands for Legion of Doom, and was founded by Lex Luthor. I won't go into the whole shpiel about their history, I assume you've heard most of it. Anyway, I will say that they started their own little world of know-nothings and made it Elite, they and TKOS will be the basis for the next Elite group , but I shouldn't leak about that now. LOD's main claim to fame is that Lex types up shitloads of manuals and plasters LOD all over them. Getting published in 2600 every other month probably helps also. Another emerging group CEO, isn't as ridiculous as LOD, I mean the memebers know a lot, and write intelligent stuff, the only problem is, as far as I can tell its made up of 2 people! Executive Hacker, and Corprate Criminal, not much of a group even if these 2 do stack up better than the entire LOD. I think I should say now, before I forget, that if you want to get in touch with me, post a message about it on Draco Tavern (707-745-5805), you get instant validation, so thats why I'm using it for mail. Something funny which relates to LOD, I should tell you about, is a a very funny case of people impresonating Lex and King Blotto. The Weseal (alias Nap. Bonaparte, John Mulligan) was running a board, when I called up, said I was Lex, and offered to take over the board and make it Elite. I called pretending I was several LOD members, including Blotto, and I even sent him tc //+ software which was ready for him to put up. The sofware had LOD, written all over it, and the kid actually put it up. As far as I know, it may still be up, call at 212-535-2389. well, by now I am draging this a bit to far, I would just like to say that Adventurer's Tavern always sucked, it was a shit pirate board, even on my first call back in early '84, it was nonsense. Sherwood Forest ][ was a great one, very huge, and very easy to get on. I remember some rodent Disk Raper thought that they were running the board on a black box, 'cuz the # didn't show up on his bill, funny... later The Infiltrator - Ok, I admit it, I'm not really The Infiltrator(HEHE!)... p.s: I just wannt scream and shout, I have so many stories to tell, about so many people, the modem world was immense but not always intense, Atom: Write a 1985 loser file, please...