CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 07/10/89 21:46:34 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 206769; next msg =42072; 351 active msgs. Prev. call 07/08/89 @ 22:12, next msg was 42039 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking fo >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 13 KILLED. 10 SUMMARY. 24 07/08/89,22:12:10,206717,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#42039,7 07/08/89,23:02:34,206718,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,2 07/08/89,23:41:17,206719,1,JERALD DAWSON,Wauconda/ Il,3 07/08/89,23:58:40,206720,1,JIM CEMPEL,Chicago/Illinois,10 07/09/89,00:13:17,206721,1,JIM CEMPEL,,3 07/09/89,00:31:06,206722,2,TOD CAMPBELL,,3 07/09/89,01:05:04,206723,1,EDWARD BECKMAN,HAZEL CREST/IL,5 07/09/89,03:36:53,206724,1,DENNIS LEONG,,4 07/09/89,05:05:49,206725,1,STEVE BOGOLUB,,2 07/09/89,06:54:30,206726,2,BILL COLEMAN,,3 07/09/89,07:19:25,206727,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,2 07/09/89,07:30:13,206728,3,ALEX ZELL,, 07/09/89,07:37:15,206729,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,3 07/09/89,09:16:16,206730,2,JERRY WOLF,ARLINGTON HGTS/ IL,2 ]H +++3 JERRY WOLF, 07/09/89,12:34:14,206731,2,JOHN RICKENS,VICTORVILLE/CALIF,3 07/09/89,13:40:19,206732,1,BOB SULLIVAN,, E#42040, E#42041,16 07/09/89,13:59:40,206733,1,JEAN BARBER,Riverwoods/ IL,24 ]Regrettably, I have been away so long that I have forgotten how to use your board. There seem to be changes. I hope they are friendly to new users. And Hi E. Zoll. JEAN BARBER, 07/09/89,14:25:53,206734,1,DONNIE STUHLMAN,, E#42042, E#42043, E#42044,15 07/09/89,15:09:54,206735,2,ED FOSTER,,5 07/09/89,15:37:15,206736,2,ED FOSTER,,3 07/09/89,17:01:19,206737,2,MIKE CLINE,Chicago/ IL,3 07/09/89,20:17:55,206738,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,3 07/09/89,20:43:33,206739,3,MICHAEL PASTORELLI,MT.PROSPECT/ IL, 07/09/89,20:51:25,206740,1,BILL WODARCZYK,Chicago Il., E#42045,11 07/09/89,21:52:08,206741,2,STEVE COOK,,1 07/09/89,22:11:44,206742,1,MICHAEL BLAKE,,6 07/09/89,22:20:09,206743,1,KATHLEEN RAMBO,Aurora/IL,3 07/09/89,23:24:17,206744,1,CHRIS SMITH,elkhart/Indiana, ]CHAT: This bbs,3 07/10/89,00:47:39,206745,2,BILL MATTSON,, 07/10/89,01:30:03,206746,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#42046,8 07/10/89,02:05:09,206747,2,BILL MATTSON,,2 07/10/89,05:29:21,206748,2,PETE JONES,,1 07/10/89,06:28:52,206749,2,MIKE SANDMAN,,4 07/10/89,07:16:44,206750,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,6 07/10/89,07:48:47,206751,3,ALEX ZELL,, E#42047, 07/10/89,11:00:24,206752,2,JACK HOMA,,3 07/10/89,11:54:09,206753,1,JEAN BARBER,, E#42048,61 07/10/89,12:52:14,206754,2,BRENT JONES,,1 07/10/89,12:58:07,206755,1,BRENT JONES,, E#42049,23 07/10/89,13:53:34,206756,2,DENNIS STAHL,,5 07/10/89,14:23:46,206757,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#42050, E#42051, E#42052, 07/10/89,14:42:21,206758,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1 ]Chaz: I picked up the BBS list and reformatted it (went from 29K to 19K) but the line noise is too bad for me to attempt an upload - I'd just be afraid of too many typos. Not sure what to do. I think the line noise is partly due to the high temperature. __I may try u/ling a few msgs anyway... WARD CHRISTENSEN, E#42053, E#42054, E#42055, E#42056, E#42057, E#42058, E#42059, E#42060, E#42061, E#42062, E#42063, E#42064, E#42065, E#42066, E#42067, E#42068, E#42069, E#42070, E#42071, 07/10/89,15:00:26,206759,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,0 07/10/89,15:06:57,206760,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 07/10/89,15:15:42,206761,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1 ]My sister-in-law's father died, will be going back to WI for Tues and Wed, mebbe Thurs. WARD CHRISTENSEN, 07/10/89,17:16:56,206762,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,6 07/10/89,19:01:34,206763,2,PHIL JERN,,1 07/10/89,19:14:14,206764,1,JEAN BARBER,, ]K,42047,JEAN BARBER, 5 07/10/89,21:07:29,206765,1,JACK SMITH,EVANSTON/IL,4 07/10/89,21:12:50,206766,2,GREG SMITH,,1 07/10/89,21:21:21,206767,1,JACK SMITH,,4 07/10/89,21:23:11,206768,2,STEVE COOK,,0 07/10/89,21:46:37,206769,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 42039 07/08/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => COLIN SCHROEDER: "R/WELCOME BACK" 42040 07/09/89 BOB SULLIVAN => ALL: "COMPUTER BAKES BREAD" 42041 07/09/89 BOB SULLIVAN => ALL: "BBS NUMBERS" 42042 07/09/89 DONNIE STUHLMAN => GRANT KILLEY: "R/CONSULTING FIRM WANTED" 42043 07/09/89 DONNIE STUHLMAN => ALL: "WARNING ABOUT COMPUTER STORE" 42044 07/09/89 DONNIE STUHLMAN => ALL: "NEW POSITION NEEDED" 42045 07/09/89 BILL WODARCZYK => ALL: "MODEMS" 42046 07/10/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => BILL WODARCZYK: "R/MODEMS" 42047 07/10/89 ALEX ZELL => JEAN BARBER: "RETURN OF" 42048 07/10/89 JEAN BARBER => JAMES SCHMIDT: "R/SUPERCALC 5 OPINION(S)" 42049 07/10/89 BRENT JONES => WARD: "W. SUBURBS USER GROUP?" 42050 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BRENT JONES: "R/W. SUBURBS USER GROUP?" 42051 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BILL WODARCZYK: "R/MODEMS" 42052 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/MODEMS" 42053 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "CHICAGO AREA BBS LIST" 42054 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS ARL. - BERWYN" 42055 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS BLUE I-CHICAGO" 42056 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS CHICAGO" 42057 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS CHICAGO-DOWNERS" 42058 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS DUNDEEE-GENEVA" 42059 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS GLEN E.-LINCOLNWOOD" 42060 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS LIND.-OAK LAWN" 42061 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS OAKPARK-SCHAUM." 42062 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS SKOKIE-ZION" 42063 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS NEW #S" 42064 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS NEW #S " 42065 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS - DEAD LIST?" 42066 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS: LEGEND" 42067X 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "(CONT'D)" 42068 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS LIST CONT'D" 42069 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS - SYSTEM TYPES" 42070 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS TYPES " 42071 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "STILLWATERS BBS LIST" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 42039 is 08 line(s) on 07/08/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to COLIN SCHROEDER re: R/WELCOME BACK Nulls is a msg related to seeing an N or ^N while CBBS types - it is a quick way to get 'em, then, to make sure you REALLY wanted 'em (since on most terminal programs they are invisible BUT cause slower transmission) I ask. No big deal. Musta been line noise. We're back on an old Courier external 2400 awaiting the return of the 9600 HSTs. The board was down for a week or so due to the modem glitch, followed by the fact that when turned off for a few days, the hard drive refused to start up again, sigh. Msg 42040 is 01 line(s) on 07/09/89 from BOB SULLIVAN to ALL re: COMPUTER BAKES BREAD I have tried the DAK AUTO BAKERY, and it works great. Msg 42041 is 03 line(s) on 07/09/89 from BOB SULLIVAN to ALL re: BBS NUMBERS Does anybody have the BBS numbers of the National Science Foundation, US Naval Observatory, or the Library of Congress? Also, does anybody know the numbers of any other national special interest BBS? Msg 42042 is 05 line(s) on 07/09/89 from DONNIE STUHLMAN to GRANT KILLEY re: R/CONSULTING FIRM WANTED If you are still looking for a consultant I may be of help. Previously I was the in-house consultant for computer store. I am an expert in Turbo Pascal, have several published programs and learn almost anything needed for microcomputers. Give me a call to see if we can help each other. 743-4241. Msg 42043 is 22 line(s) on 07/09/89 from DONNIE STUHLMAN to ALL re: WARNING ABOUT COMPUTER STORE In selecting a microcomputer vendor one should be very careful about how they treat both their customers and staff. DOS Computer Centers of Park Ridge and Niles are in serious financial staights. All their vendors have them on credit hold. It is difficult for them to deliver product. All their good service and support staff have left for greener pastures. They have a bare bones sales staff that probably does have the time to take care of you. They treat their staff poorly, keeping them in the dark about the real problems. The sales staff is forced to withold the truth from customers. I am a highly skilled microcomputer specialist now looking for a new job. I've been using micros for over eleven years. I have masters and bachelors degrees from Columbia University (New York City). My specialties are desktop publishing, infor- mation flow, word processing, and problem solving. If you want to know the "emes" leave a message here. If you know of a job or just want to chat about the industry give me a call at 743-4241. Msg 42044 is 01 line(s) on 07/09/89 from DONNIE STUHLMAN to ALL re: NEW POSITION NEEDED I am looking for a new job. Please see message 42043. Msg 42045 is 08 line(s) on 07/09/89 from BILL WODARCZYK to ALL re: MODEMS I have trouble with my modem(s). I wonder if anyone can tell me what to do I have a 2400 baud from Computer Direct and a 9600 Racal-Vadic from work Neither one works over 1200 baud more than once or twice. The 9600 works fine when I use it with the Televidio dumb terminal connected to a main}if frame 4381. I even have trouble at 1200 at times. MatX}Bell says I can get a ~"i}ei>d}olpnditioned line{_ but it will cost me. What should I do? I have gotten something called 'NONOISE' from ather board and it would require surg}i{_eory on thphone line. Msg 42046 is 15 line(s) on 07/10/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN to BILL WODARCZYK re: R/MODEMS The first thing to do is to establish whether the problem is in your phone line or in your modems. There are two ways to do that: 1) borrow a modem (preferably from a different vendor than the ones you have), connect it to your line, and see what performance you get 2) (possibly easier) take your modems over to someone else's line and try them out. If the line is the problem, check whether there's enough noise to inter- fere with voice communications. If there is, the phone company will have to fix it (they AREN'T obligated to fix problems that affect data only unless you're paying extra for what amounts to a guarantee that they will). You might check with vendors to see if they have some line noise filters. Come to think of it, I have one lying around somewhere; I picked it up at a hamfest. Finally, don't judge your modems by their performance on connects to this BBS. Right now it's running on a borrowed modem and has unusually severe line noise, which should go away once Ward gets his regular modem fixed. Msg 42047 is 02 line(s) on 07/10/89 from ALEX ZELL to JEAN BARBER re: RETURN OF Nice to see you back. Most of the changes are transparent and should not affect you. You do, of course, remember "h;keywords". Msg 42048 is 18 line(s) on 07/10/89 from JEAN BARBER to JAMES SCHMIDT re: R/SUPERCALC 5 OPINION(S) There is a product called TWIN from Mosaic Software, Inc. 1972 Massachusetts Ave. Cambridge, MA 02140 which seems to be disk based and looks, tastes and acts like lotus, except for some menu handling. I like their drop down because it looks like the Wordstar drop down. They put it on two disks for my portable at my request. I have LOTUS on my hard drive. So far neither me nor my accountant (he uses LOTUS exclusively) that did not work alike. He is quite apt at writing MACROS. OOps, I left out the verb found in previous sentence. But, I think you will get the message. By the way they have an integrated package for only a few dollars more with databases, wordprocessors, etc. For my purposes I did not need so did not buy it. Local software houses can get it for you. But they seem to be willing to sell direct, also. Their phone 617-491-2434. Their version 3 came out before LOTUS. I am using version 2 in Lotus and Advantage in TWIN. Msg 42049 is 09 line(s) on 07/10/89 from BRENT JONES to WARD re: W. SUBURBS USER GROUP? Thanks for your good reply on CIS about printing on plastic. I think that I am going to get a DeskJet and use the IBM plastic you mentioned. Could you find the product name and number for me? Also what PC users groups in the Chicago suburbs would you suggest or recommend? I live in Wheaton (missionary on furlough from Pakistan.) My phone is 665-4462 and my CIS # 71301,1742 Thanks. Brent Jones Msg 42050 is 20 line(s) on 07/10/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to BRENT JONES re: R/W. SUBURBS USER GROUP? Gee, I don't know about west suburban user groups. I live in the far south suburbs, and "far west" (Wheaton, Schaumburg, etc) are like in another state for me. The PC club I am most involved in meets at the University of Chicago, 59th St. and almost the lake, so you can see why I like that one. There's also CACHE, the oldest club in Chicago, which meets sort of "Central" - DeVry, at about Belmont and Western (actually on Campbell one block west), "3300 N. Campbell, approx 2500 west". They have a BBS, not sure if it is members-only. 470-1691. There is also a (I think larger) club in the Chicago area, which probably has "chapters" in various areas - I remember hearing of one in Harvey (far south where I am) but I'm not sure where to get you started on finding that one, since I'm not directly involved in it, except when asked to speak a few years ago. They tend to meet in the evening after work downtown, dunno about the "chapters". Hopefully someone else will answer your msg. To find the info on that plastic, call IBM direct 1-800-IBM-2468 and ask for their plotter transparencies. (Gad, the line noise is awful today, I'm constantly editing out glitches! Must be the heat, and the fact that our MNP (error correcting) modem is on the fritz). Msg 42051 is 13 line(s) on 07/10/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to BILL WODARCZYK re: R/MODEMS Does 300 baud work OK? Sounds just like you have a noisy line. If you can't find the noise on a VOICE call then the phone company won't fix it for you. I know of ONE case where there was a bad "trunk" line between my area (far south) and CBBS (near north) and they WERE willing to find it because it went "tic.tic.tic" on a VOICE call. If your voice calls are noisy, then report it and forget about the modem - THEN try the modem again. Your only other possibility is, if the line isn't TOO bad, to go to an error correctinng modem and only call into systems that support error correction (ARQ or MNP) (ARQ is US Robotics name for MNP), such as this board (though our error correcting modem died and is in for service) or others. That may slow down things, but short of a disconnect, you stop getting line noise. Msg 42052 is 05 line(s) on 07/10/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/MODEMS Eric, could you put a couple spaces at the front of a new paragraph? Look at your msg 42046 - your very vaulable info is slightly less readable due to being just blocks of lines. Don't put in blank lines - that just spreads out the msg - but a couple space indent should work fine. Thanks for your helpful participation in CBBS!