CBBS(R) 4.0.1b 03/16/89 00:28:50 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 203602; next msg =41484; 459 active msgs. Prev. call 03/08/89 @ 08:15, next msg was 41458 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;shor LOG. 13 KILLED. 29 SUMMARY. 29 03/16/89,00:28:53,203602,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 41458 03/08/89 BILL MATTSON => WARD: "IMSAI" 41459 03/10/89 KATHLEEN MARTIN => JERRY OLSEN: "R/LOCAL BBS #S" 41460 03/10/89 KATHLEEN MARTIN => JIM FLANAGAN: "R/NEW IN TOWN/BBS'S" type log; 03/07/89,23:34:58,203375,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1 ]OK, I'm off to the west (Frisco) then south (Houston, Saturday). See you all next Thursday the 16th. WARD CHRISTENSEN, 03/08/89,00:53:55,203376,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1 03/08/89,05:19:45,203377,2,JERRY OLSEN,,10 03/08/89,05:38:00,203378,2,PETE JONES,,1 03/08/89,07:49:32,203379,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,1 03/08/89,08:00:37,203380,2,DAVID GIBBS,, 03/08/89,08:15:40,203381,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,5 03/08/89,08:22:25,203382,1,PETE CANTELE,,11 03/08/89,10:15:44,203383,2,BILL FISCHER,,1 03/08/89,10:18:57,203384,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2 03/08/89,11:47:55,203385,1,JIM EGAN,,2 03/08/89,21:03:41,203386,2,RICK BOHM,,13 03/08/89,21:17:59,203387,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,1 03/08/89,21:20:32,203388,1,JOHN PETENES,,2 03/08/89,21:33:07,203389,2,MIKE COOK,,5 03/08/89,21:43:31,203390,3,BILL MATTSON,, E#41458,9 03/08/89,22:22:29,203391,2,JIM POLOUS,,5 03/08/89,22:32:09,203392,1,DANNY VAISRUB,,2 03/08/89,22:49:15,203393,2,EDWARD MARCH,,3 03/08/89,22:57:43,203394,2,PHIL LEJMAN,,11 03/09/89,00:04:57,203395,2,ALEX TAN,CHICAGO/IL,4 03/09/89,00:58:04,203396,1,HAMILTON AGPAWA,CHICAGO IL,8 03/09/89,01:16:07,203397,2,JIM ANDERSON,,2 03/09/89,05:13:13,203398,2,ALEX ZELL,, 03/09/89,06:56:20,203399,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 03/09/89,06:57:41,203400,1,BARRY POLLACK,,11 03/09/89,07:46:55,203401,2,PAUL STREETER,,3 03/09/89,07:52:24,203402,2,PAUL STREETER,,1 ]My CBBS script does not work at 2400 baud. you may see a few short sign on's while I fix it. How many cr's does CBBS need to figure out the calling modem? PAUL STREETER, 03/09/89,16:48:50,203403,2,RICHARD GOZDAL,,3 03/09/89,18:01:08,203404,1,JIM EGAN,,4 03/09/89,18:58:42,203405,1,JOHN FLOOD,Evanston/IL,11 03/09/89,19:32:49,203406,1,FRANK FOROUGHI,CHICAGO/ IL,9 03/09/89,20:00:29,203407,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,3 03/09/89,20:44:16,203408,1,VIC RODELL,,9 03/09/89,21:17:15,203409,1,DENNIS DUFFNER,,3 03/09/89,21:25:27,203410,2,JIM POLOUS,,0 03/09/89,21:48:27,203411,1,PETER NEOTE,VERNON HILLS/ IL,3 03/09/89,21:50:36,203412,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,1 03/09/89,22:10:18,203413,2,JIM MORAVEC,,1 03/09/89,22:58:55,203414,1,GHOST RIDER,CHGO/ILL,3 03/09/89,23:03:23,203415,2,JIM ANDERSON,,2 03/09/89,23:23:43,203416,2,JOHN KMIEC,River Forest/ IL,6 03/10/89,00:55:55,203417,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1 03/10/89,02:26:03,203418,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1 03/10/89,03:40:25,203419,2,PETE JONES,,0 03/10/89,04:06:12,203420,1,VIC ALLEN,,8 03/10/89,04:21:09,203421,2,ALEX ZELL,, 03/10/89,04:50:10,203422,1,DANNY VAISRUB,,3 03/10/89,05:50:22,203423,2,TRACY LOSE,,1 03/10/89,06:26:44,203424,1,ARTHUR DIZON,CHICAGO/IL,7 03/10/89,06:39:21,203425,9,MIKE ANDREWS,,2 03/10/89,07:11:13,203426,3,PHIL SCHUMAN,,4 03/10/89,07:57:04,203427,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,1 03/10/89,08:32:05,203428,2,JIM THALE,,9 03/10/89,09:00:32,203429,1,KATHLEEN MARTIN,, E#41459, E#41460,18 03/10/89,11:04:21,203430,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 03/10/89,11:19:23,203431,1,DANNY VAISRUB,,4 03/10/89,11:42:59,203432,1,DANNY VAISRUB,,4 03/10/89,12:31:21,203433,1,LARRY HITZ,,7 03/10/89,12:43:39,203434,2,HERB SCHULZ,,2 03/10/89,12:54:13,203435,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 03/10/89,13:25:41,203436,1,ART ABACAN,,4 03/10/89,13:51:11,203437,2,RICHARD HINTON,,1 03/10/89,16:18:35,203438,1,DAVE DEVORE,,2 03/10/89,16:21:15,203439,2,DAVE DEVORE,,1 03/10/89,16:24:18,203440,1,EDWARD GEDEON,,2 03/10/89,17:13:43,203441,2,CLIFF SHARP,,7 03/10/89,18:24:45,203442,2,RICHARD GOZDAL,, ]K,41324,RICHARD GOZDAL, 2 03/10/89,18:55:02,203443,1,JOSEPH SKOM,,1 03/10/89,18:56:09,203444,1,PHIL SCOPES,chicago, 03/10/89,19:07:37,203445,1,BURTON HOLLABAUGH,DESPLAINES,5 03/10/89,19:14:03,203446,3,KEN NESS,,3 03/10/89,20:00:27,203447,1,MAX YOUNG,,1 03/10/89,20:02:11,203448,1,MAX YOUNG,,5 03/10/89,20:19:32,203449,2,RICHARD JACOBSON,Chicago/ IL, >Help: HELP BELL,7 03/10/89,20:26:32,203450,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,,4 ]I note that message 16 et seq. are a year old! But keep up the good work! BENJAMIN COHEN, 03/10/89,22:08:06,203451,1,BEN TEIFELD,,4 03/10/89,23:22:39,203452,2,PAUL STREETER,,1 03/11/89,00:14:44,203453,2,JIM ANDERSON,,1 03/11/89,02:32:54,203454,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1 03/11/89,04:16:47,203455,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,3 03/11/89,04:44:02,203456,2,GARY BROWN,,2 03/11/89,05:37:11,203457,2,DUFFY TOLER,,3 03/11/89,05:53:50,203458,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,1 03/11/89,06:21:19,203459,3,DAVE KENNELLY,COUNTRY CLUB NILLS ILL,10 03/11/89,06:40:49,203460,2,ED FOSTER,, E#41461,4 03/11/89,07:15:13,203461,2,DAVID GIBBS,,0 03/11/89,09:14:36,203462,3,HARLAND AMBORN,MADISON, >Help: ARIZONA, >Help: 12,15 03/11/89,10:01:41,203463,1,CHRIS STRODE,, 03/11/89,10:23:10,203464,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1 03/11/89,10:42:28,203465,2,JOHN CERVEN,forest park/ il,7 03/11/89,12:00:56,203466,1,BILL RUTING,Lyons/ IL,3 03/11/89,12:41:37,203467,3,ED FANTA,,4 03/11/89,16:22:12,203468,2,MARIO PACHECO,, E#41462,7 03/11/89,17:42:07,203469,1,DANNY VAISRUB,, >Help: XZP,0 03/11/89,18:13:30,203470,2,JOE JESSON,,6 03/11/89,18:51:13,203471,2,RICHARD GOZDAL,,1 03/11/89,19:07:18,203472,2,JIM POLOUS,,0 03/11/89,19:29:00,203473,3,JIM COLLING,,5 03/11/89,20:02:34,203474,1,JASON ABATE,AURORA/ IL,3 03/11/89,20:41:02,203475,1,DENNIS LEONG,,8 03/11/89,20:54:05,203476,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,4 03/11/89,21:17:53,203477,2,PAUL STREETER,,2 03/11/89,21:51:20,203478,2,DAVE SCHWARTZ,Evanston/ IL,5 03/11/89,22:12:57,203479,2,JIM ANDERSON,,1 03/11/89,22:34:10,203480,1,COLIN SCHROEDER,, E#41463,29 03/11/89,23:10:46,203481,2,PHIL JERN,,42 03/11/89,23:17:19,203482,2,TRACY LOSE,,4 03/11/89,23:22:34,203483,2,MICHAEL SZEWCZYK,, E#41464,8 03/12/89,08:34:04,203484,2,ROGER HAAK,lindenhurst/il.,4 03/12/89,08:42:31,203485,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,6 03/12/89,10:29:30,203486,2,STEVE CASTLE,,1 03/12/89,10:31:20,203487,2,TRENT CASTLE,,6 03/12/89,10:37:11,203488,2,TRENT CASTLE,,4 ]tks. I'll be back with my dad later today. TRENT CASTLE, 03/12/89,11:11:37,203489,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,10 03/12/89,15:40:31,203490,1,ANDY ANSENBERGER,, 03/12/89,15:46:10,203491,1,ED JONES,Elmhurst/IL,5 03/12/89,16:04:40,203492,1,ED JONES,,33 03/12/89,17:39:23,203493,3,MARK KENIGSBERG,WESTMONT/IL.,30 03/12/89,18:39:13,203494,2,JIM PERKINS,Reidsville/ NC, >Help: "[9XV_W01]V1"^3SBS$,5 03/12/89,18:55:33,203495,1,ELIZABETH CLAYTON,Chicago/ IL,3 ]this is a very wierd board. take a hint from Shangri-La! and make it simpler. Thanx! ELIZABETH CLAYTON, 03/12/89,19:09:58,203496,3,GREGORY WALKER,Chicago/ Ill, 03/12/89,19:37:30,203497,1,BILL CARNEY,chicago,1 ]off 9Cx{S`( BILL CARNEY, 03/12/89,20:43:55,203498,3,JOE GIOVINGO,CHICAGO/ IL, 03/12/89,20:55:56,203499,2,PAUL STREETER,,1 03/12/89,21:02:57,203500,2,MICHAEL SZEWCZYK,,2 ]Hi, I have some questions about CRC checking, I was wondering if you could help me with them, they are in the public message base, I just wanted to call your attention to them because, well, I'm despereate. Thanks for your help... MICHAEL SZEWCZYK, 03/12/89,21:22:35,203501,2,ALEX ZELL,, 03/12/89,21:28:41,203502,2,RICK BOHM,,9 03/12/89,21:39:49,203503,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,14 03/12/89,21:46:41,203504,3,ROGELIO QUINTERO,chicago/illinois,6 03/12/89,21:52:53,203505,2,DAVID GIBBS,,2 03/12/89,22:05:12,203506,2,JIM POLOUS,,1 03/12/89,22:42:05,203507,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#41465,18 03/12/89,23:19:02,203508,2,GEORGE HAILS,arlington heights/ill, >Help: SIGON,18 03/13/89,00:28:36,203509,2,BILL MATTSON,,8 03/13/89,01:58:18,203510,2,GEORGE HAILS,,39 03/13/89,03:51:01,203511,2,GEORGE HAILS,,4 ]first time on, Tnx a lot regards,george GEORGE HAILS, 03/13/89,04:49:31,203512,2,GEORGE HAILS,,2 03/13/89,05:42:49,203513,2,GEORGE HAILS,,2 03/13/89,05:51:32,203514,2,PETE JONES,,1 03/13/89,07:28:31,203515,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2 03/13/89,09:28:51,203516,1,JIM TEMPLIN,CHICAGO/IL,5 03/13/89,12:39:32,203517,3,PHIL SCHUMAN,,0 03/13/89,13:41:31,203518,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0 03/13/89,14:26:53,203519,1,TED KEKATOS,,5 03/13/89,15:20:24,203520,1,FIRSTNAME LASTNAME,chicago,10 ]FIRSTNAME LASTNAME, 03/13/89,16:22:06,203521,2,ROGER HALE,, E#41466, 03/13/89,16:42:36,203522,1,JEFF MARTIN,,5 03/13/89,16:59:39,203523,2,BILL FISCHER,,2 03/13/89,17:57:17,203524,1,BOB SULLIVAN,, E#41467,4 03/13/89,18:41:32,203525,2,MICHAEL SZEWCZYK,, E#41468,11 03/13/89,19:10:48,203526,1,MIKE KAVADIAS,,2 03/13/89,19:56:56,203527,2,DICK LIEBER,,6 03/13/89,20:40:55,203528,3,MARK KENIGSBERG,,9 03/13/89,21:16:20,203529,3,WARREN BAKKER,D,5 03/13/89,21:18:36,203530,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,, E#41469,2 03/13/89,21:28:46,203531,2,DAN MALLETT,Woodridge/il,14 ]Thank you very much, I'm new to the area and your list of BBS's is very helpful. May return later to review the messages for specific problems you folks may already have solved for me. Later Thanks again. DAN MALLETT, 03/13/89,22:02:19,203532,1,DENNIS DUFFNER,,1 03/13/89,22:09:09,203533,2,BILL COLEMAN,,4 03/13/89,22:30:01,203534,2,PHIL JERN,,14 03/13/89,22:40:13,203535,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,25 03/13/89,22:42:40,203536,2,MICHAEL SZEWCZYK,,5 03/14/89,00:52:27,203537,2,JIM ANDERSON,, E#41470,6 03/14/89,04:44:31,203538,2,ALEX ZELL,, 03/14/89,07:09:09,203539,1,DD SS,, 03/14/89,07:13:21,203540,1,SS SSSS,k, 03/14/89,07:14:34,203541,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,3 03/14/89,07:34:54,203542,2,KK KK,chicago, 03/14/89,07:42:12,203543,1,MIKE MIKE,chicago, 03/14/89,07:44:23,203544,2,MM MM,chicago, 03/14/89,07:47:19,203545,3,DAVE KENNELLY,,7 03/14/89,08:32:41,203546,2,PAUL STREETER,,2 03/14/89,09:35:27,203547,1,JEFF DELINCK,,4 03/14/89,11:01:41,203548,1,KIMBLE PYE,oak park,23 >Help: ETIN , >Help: 6, >Help: BULN BOARD, >Help: DATAB2ASE, >Help: DATABASE,13 03/14/89,14:08:15,203549,3,BAD BOB,, 03/14/89,14:10:52,203550,3,BAD BOB,, 03/14/89,14:13:26,203551,3,JIM SHORTS,,7 03/14/89,14:22:14,203552,3,JIM SHORTS,,11 03/14/89,15:03:36,203553,2,HARRY STY,CHGO,8 ]HARRY STY, 03/14/89,15:11:23,203554,1,ARNOLD BOYD,,1 03/14/89,15:21:06,203555,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2 03/14/89,16:06:22,203556,1,EFREN ANGUIANO,, 03/14/89,16:28:20,203557,2,PAUL STREETER,,1 03/14/89,17:39:36,203558,1,BINYAMIN SCHWARTZ,Chicago/IL,4 03/14/89,17:44:34,203559,3,BOB NAGLICH,,6 03/14/89,18:01:09,203560,2,JIM POLOUS,,0 03/14/89,18:27:11,203561,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,10 03/14/89,18:32:43,203562,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1 03/14/89,18:52:09,203563,1,MARIO MADURO,chi-town,14 ]q q q q q q q q q q q MARIO MADURO, 03/14/89,19:13:03,203564,2,TRACY LOSE,,2 03/14/89,19:23:42,203565,3,GREGORIO MOMM,SP/SAO PAULO, 03/14/89,19:36:21,203566,1,KEVIN KEYSER,, E#41471,13 03/14/89,20:44:23,203567,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,2 03/14/89,21:09:10,203568,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,5 03/14/89,22:08:55,203569,1,LARRY HOLUB,,21 03/14/89,22:26:51,203570,2,BILL MATTSON,,6 03/14/89,23:06:03,203571,2,MICHAEL SZEWCZYK,,2 03/14/89,23:38:55,203572,1,KEVIN MCGUIGAN,, E#41472,9 ]THANK, MR. C. - I'LL CHECK THE BBS AND RSVP. BEST WISHES. KEVIN MCGUIGAN, 03/14/89,23:52:08,203573,2,RANDY BESCHORNER,,5 03/15/89,02:13:57,203574,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#41473,3 03/15/89,03:43:52,203575,1,KHALIL HAZZIEZ,,7 03/15/89,04:17:28,203576,2,JERRY OLSEN,, E#41474, E#41475,22 03/15/89,04:41:22,203577,2,JERRY OLSEN,,0 03/15/89,05:35:19,203578,2,PETE JONES,,1 03/15/89,07:59:06,203579,1,LARRY HITZ,,2 03/15/89,08:44:32,203580,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 03/15/89,11:06:05,203581,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,, E#41476,5 03/15/89,12:20:03,203582,3,PAUL CARRINGTON,langly park maryland,13 ]PAUL CARRINGTON, 03/15/89,12:40:13,203583,1,PETE CANTELE,, E#41477,6 03/15/89,12:49:27,203584,1,PETE CANTELE,, E#41478,8 03/15/89,14:02:40,203585,1,LARRY WRAY,,7 03/15/89,14:07:49,203586,1,LARRY WRAY,,12 03/15/89,14:18:53,203587,2,MARTY LINGG,,2 03/15/89,14:41:21,203588,2,MARTY LINGG,,1 03/15/89,16:01:15,203589,3,C JEFFRIES,F, 03/15/89,16:05:30,203589,3,TINA JEFFRIES,, 03/15/89,16:30:51,203590,2,BILLY BUGG,Dallas/ Texas,32 03/15/89,17:01:08,203591,2,MICHAEL SZEWCZYK,, E#41479,5 03/15/89,17:27:49,203592,1,GUEST GUEST,Cologne, 03/15/89,17:35:13,203593,3,BERND SCHUMACHER,Cologne/ Germany/ Europe,10 03/15/89,18:07:13,203594,3,BERND SCHUMACHER,, E#41480, 03/15/89,18:13:18,203595,2,DAVID GIBBS,,2 03/15/89,18:41:28,203596,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,3 03/15/89,18:59:36,203597,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,, E#41481, E#41482,9 03/15/89,21:20:39,203598,1,COLIN SCHROEDER,, E#41483,1111 03/15/89,22:07:20,203599,2,DANNY VAISRUB,,2 03/15/89,22:12:53,203600,2,PAUL STREETER,,2 03/15/89,23:59:58,203601,1,ALEX ZELL,,9 ]Decided to resist temptation to zap 41480. ALEX ZELL,9 ]Strange: when I do g;y it gives me date and time and next line reports "Unable to calc connect time" but it stuck a 9 in anyway. ALEX ZELL, 03/16/89,00:28:53,203602,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 41458 03/08/89 BILL MATTSON => WARD: "IMSAI" 41459 03/10/89 KATHLEEN MARTIN => JERRY OLSEN: "R/LOCAL BBS #S" 41460 03/10/89 KATHLEEN MARTIN => JIM FLANAGAN: "R/NEW IN TOWN/BBS'S" 41461 03/11/89 ED FOSTER => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/DISK" 41462 03/11/89 MARIO PACHECO => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "JOB." 41463 03/11/89 COLIN SCHROEDER => ALL: "80387-16 CHIPS" 41464 03/11/89 MICHAEL SZEWCZYK => ALL: "XMODEM CRC" 41465 03/12/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => MICHAEL SZEWCZYK: "R/XMODEM CRC" 41466 03/13/89 ROGER HALE => MIKE ANDREWS: "R/CBBS IN THE SMITHSONIAN UPDA" 41467 03/13/89 BOB SULLIVAN => ALL: "APPLE IMAGEWRITER" 41468 03/13/89 MICHAEL SZEWCZYK => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/XMODEM CRC" 41469 03/13/89 JAMES SCHMIDT => ALL: "DOS 4.01 OR WP 5.0 PROBLEM?" 41470 03/14/89 JIM ANDERSON => COLIN SCHROEDER: "R/80387-16 CHIPS" 41471 03/14/89 KEVIN KEYSER => KATHLEEN MARTIN: "R/NEW IN TOWN/BBS'S" 41472 03/14/89 KEVIN MCGUIGAN => SYSOP: "?" 41473 03/15/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => MICHAEL SZEWCZYK: "R/XMODEM CRC" 41474 03/15/89 JERRY OLSEN => JAMES SCHMIDT: "R/DOS 4.01 OR WP 5.0 PROBLEM?" 41475 03/15/89 JERRY OLSEN => ALL: "EXE2BIN QUERY" 41476 03/15/89 ANDY SHAPIRO => ED FOSTER: "DISK" 41477 03/15/89 PETE CANTELE => ALL: "FOR SALE - HAYES 1200B" 41478 03/15/89 PETE CANTELE => JAMES SCHMIDT: "DOS 4.01/WP 5.0" 41479 03/15/89 MICHAEL SZEWCZYK => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/XMODEM CRC" 41480 03/15/89 BERND SCHUMACHER => ALL: "CONTACT EUROPE/GERMANY" 41481 03/15/89 JAMES SCHMIDT => PETE CANTELE: "R/DOS 4.01/WP 5.0" 41482 03/15/89 JAMES SCHMIDT => PETE CANTELE: "R/DOS 4.01/WP 5.0" 41483 03/15/89 COLIN SCHROEDER => JIM ANDERSON: "R/80387-16 CHIPS" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 41458 is 07 line(s) on 03/08/89 from BILL MATTSON to WARD re: IMSAI YOUR SMITHSONIAN PROJECT REMINDED ME OF THE OLD IMSAI. SO I'M CALLING IN AT 300 BAUD USING IT AND THE OLD PMMI MODEM, WHICH ALSO SUPPORTS 600 AND 710 AND 450 BAUD, OH BOY! SORRY ABOUT THE UPPER case but the imsai keyboard requires a mode change to get lower CASE AND I'VE FORGOTTEN HOW TO DO ALL THAT ANCIENT STUFF. STILL IT'S A KICK TO TRY THE OLD RIG AGAIN AND FIND IT STILL WORKS. REGARDS. Msg 41459 is 02 line(s) on 03/10/89 from KATHLEEN MARTIN to JERRY OLSEN re: R/LOCAL BBS #S Thanks for the info and help, Jerry. Will take your advice and give it a try.ttyl.Kathleen Msg 41460 is 18 line(s) on 03/10/89 from KATHLEEN MARTIN to JIM FLANAGAN re: R/NEW IN TOWN/BBS'S Thanks for the tip on Kisors board, Jim. BTW, I'm >not< from San Francisco-rather LA-LA land, and North Hollywood to get specific. Living so close to all the studios is probably why I'm spoiled at having access to a great number of bbses devoted to writing (although most of the users were tv and film screenwriters). My main reason for wanting a "writers board" is to have an appropriate place to post my cache of original limericks (many rather bawdy and for adult eyes only), and also to network for possible employment opportunities. I was just beginning to build up a nice home-based freelance editing, copywriting, etc. business in L.A. when my husband was relocated here. So, I'm now starting from scratch again. If any board(s) are useful for either or both these purposes, it doesn't truly matter if it's a "writers board." Again, thanks for responding and leaving the info.ttyl.Kathleen p.s. BTW, I'm very partial to the powers of this communications medium. My husband and I met long-distance over a NYC bbs (the former Ailanthus Tree), and basically fell in love in E-mail months before we actually met.but that's another story.bye.Kathleen Msg 41461 is 06 line(s) on 03/11/89 from ED FOSTER to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/DISK Glad you got it. I usually use the kraft envelope for local mail, and the disk mailers for other stuff. Maybe I should reconsider. Please let me know how you do with the 10NET Paradox installation. I am always interested in 10NET lore. Like how to get IBM 5251 remote emulation to work with a 10NET board in the system. Msg 41462 is 09 line(s) on 03/11/89 from MARIO PACHECO to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: JOB. A friend of mine from the Univeristy of Illinois told me that you recently interviewed him for a job at IBM, his name was Manuel. Anyway he mentioned that there were either two types of positions or two positions. I was curious if the sales type is available? He mentioned "Wa "Ward Christensen" and XMODEM, couldn't be anyone else. anyway I'm a CS major aor as well and have had several sales positions, inlcuding Egghead, however driving 38 miles for a part time job was stretching it. The professor which orginally arranged this was Professor Jordan, I'm not sure if he was direc ct- ly dealing with you. Msg 41463 is 05 line(s) on 03/11/89 from COLIN SCHROEDER to ALL re: 80387-16 CHIPS I'm looking for a 387 chip, as inexpensive as possible. The best price I've seen is $330. If you've seen better, PLEASE let me know! Colin Schroeder 764-5963 Msg 41464 is 15 line(s) on 03/11/89 from MICHAEL SZEWCZYK to ALL re: XMODEM CRC I am currently making a bbs program on the Atari ST, (No this isn't an atari message) and I am at the File Transfer stage. I got a copy of a file document ing Xmodem Ymodem and CRC checking, but Im afraid that the CRC checking part is a bit over my head. Its kind of unclear. It speaks of Multiplying X^16 by X^1023. Am I readting this right? And what number does that variable X stand for? Can anyone help me here? Perhaps give me and equation that I can use, or atleast get some idea of what's going on in a CRC check? I would REALLY appreciate any help. I'm not a mathmatition, just a first year college student. Heh. Thankyou. Michael Szewczyk Msg 41465 is 29 line(s) on 03/12/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN to MICHAEL SZEWCZYK re: R/XMODEM CRC If you haven't already done so, call Ward's other board at 849-1132 and look through the low-numbered messages. One of them includes a short C function that lists the algorithm for the CRC computation. You might also look at an old issue of Dr. Dobbs that had CRC routines in it (early 1987, I think). It's best not to worry about the division, which is really part of the theoretical basis for the algorithm. The actual implementation involves shifting a 16-bit integer left 8 times, and XORing it with a value in certain cases. In fact, I dragged out a listing for an old Commodore term program I wrote and can tell you the algorithm: Let CRL be the low-order byte of the CRC, CRH be the high-order byte, and C be the character being sent or received. Let A be a temporary variable. Set A=C XOR CRH. Do the following 8 times: 1) Shift CRL left, with the high bit going into the carry and 0 going into the low bit. 2) Shift A left, with the carry from the previous operation going into the low bit. 3) If the above operation resulted in a carry, set A=A XOR 10HEX and set CRL=CRL XOR 21HEX. After 8 iterations, set CRH=A. That's really an 8-bit implementation, and enough familiarity has come back to let me simplify it a bit. Try this: 1) XOR the high-order byte of CRC with C. 2) Do the following 8 times: 3) Shift CRC left. If a carry results, XOR CRC with 1021HEX That's it. Msg 41466 is 09 line(s) on 03/13/89 from ROGER HALE to MIKE ANDREWS re: R/CBBS IN THE SMITHSONIAN UPDA OK, Mike, do give me a call so that we can discuss it. I had the modem repaired by the manufacturer after I bought it from Randy, however, if my memory serves me correctly it sarted going intermittant after I used it for about a year. I replaced it with and external modem, but never re-tested it again to see if my problem really was the modem. (You have to remember, early ALTAIRS were also a bit flakey from time to time.) Incidently - my two EARLY ALTAIRS both ran last time I fired them up about a year ago! (My ALTAIRS are also prized posessions.) Call me when you get a chance to. SEEYA, Roger. Msg 41467 is 04 line(s) on 03/13/89 from BOB SULLIVAN to ALL re: APPLE IMAGEWRITER Does anyone have experience with sending special bit graphics to the IMAGEWRITER PRINTER? I have done this on the Commodore years ago and have someone interested in doing the same on the IMAGE WRITER. The document- ation we have is very weak in this area. Msg 41468 is 20 line(s) on 03/13/89 from MICHAEL SZEWCZYK to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/XMODEM CRC Uhm, i don't want you to think I'm an idiot, but that kind of went over my head. Let me see if I have this strait. CRL=Low Byte CRH=High Byte C =Character being sent A =Temp Variable Ok, assuming I am using X-Modem. Would C be the added values of the Ascii codes of the 128 characters sent? Define - Low Byte, High Byte And, lastly, I dont quite understand what you meen by "Shift" this here or there. I'm kind of confused. And really, I do appreciate this help you're giving me. (Im not very well aquainted with C.) Michael Msg 41469 is 27 line(s) on 03/13/89 from JAMES SCHMIDT to ALL re: DOS 4.01 OR WP 5.0 PROBLEM? I Have a DOS 4.01 or WP 5.0 problem but don't know which. I am not sure if I have a DOS 4.01 problem or a Wordperfect 5.0 but here is the description: 1) Run Wordperfect 5.0 (I am at 11-15-88 level) 2) Shell to DOS F1 3) Goto DOS 1 4) Exit back to WP EXIT 5) Exit WP F7 6) Nosave N 7) Exit Y From the DOS prompt: Delete nonexistant file DEL XXXX Issue any SET command SET ABC=DEF Execute any EXE program MEM At this point I get the message: Invalid COMMAND.COM Unable to load Command, System Halted My question is: Is this a DOS or WP problem. How do I determine where to point the finger? Only fails after running WP 5.0. Does not fail with DOS 3.3. Thanks, James Msg 41470 is 02 line(s) on 03/14/89 from JIM ANDERSON to COLIN SCHROEDER re: R/80387-16 CHIPS What speed do you need?? 80387-16 goes for about $325 and the 80387-20 goes for apx $400. So the price of $330 as you stated is about right. Msg 41471 is 08 line(s) on 03/14/89 from KEVIN KEYSER to KATHLEEN MARTIN re: R/NEW IN TOWN/BBS'S Hi Kathleen! Well you COULD try The Round Table BBS. I think it is a great system! (I COULD be a little biased on that, though, since I run it!) The number is 312/777-9480 300-1200 baud, 24 hours a day. . Welcome to Chicago! Kevin Msg 41472 is 00 line(s) on 03/14/89 from KEVIN MCGUIGAN to SYSOP re: ? Msg 41473 is 02 line(s) on 03/15/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN to MICHAEL SZEWCZYK re: R/XMODEM CRC It looks like you'll need a "canned" CRC routine. What language (and for what processor) is this being written? Msg 41474 is 12 line(s) on 03/15/89 from JERRY OLSEN to JAMES SCHMIDT re: R/DOS 4.01 OR WP 5.0 PROBLEM? Can't necessarily say what the source of your problem is for certain, but the error message you're getting is being provided directly from the operating system, not from WP. I've seen similar experiences with other combinations of DOS and applications, and it sounds most likely that you have two copies of COMMAND.COM somewhere on your system-floppy and/or hard drive. Take a program like LOCATE, WHEREIS or FILEFIND and do a: LOCATE :COMMAND.COM and see if there's a "stray" copy around from other than your current version of DOS. (And if so, REMOVE it.) Depending how you installed WP, it's possible it's looking to a different directory than your normal COMSPEC. Good luck. Msg 41475 is 19 line(s) on 03/15/89 from JERRY OLSEN to ALL re: EXE2BIN QUERY I've written a little interactive batch-command processor which works fine as an .EXE file but yields strange results when turned it into a .COM file with EXE2BIN. My program's written in Turbo C using the tiny model so it in theory could be turned into a .COM file, and I haven't added any "fancy" routines which should conflict with the conversion.EXE2BIN offers no complaints, and the program runs fine with one and only one apparent bug.My program optionally parses a command line like: C>BATCH command1 /switches;command2;.;command n =my-own-switches-here into discrete commands which are EXECed via COMMAND.COM. However, in the .COM version, I always get a spurious character or two after the last of the commands, which my program dutifully accepts as a legal part of the command during parsing if they're printable characters. (This happens regardless of whether my own switches are used or avoided.).My program does permit editing of the parsed commands, depending upon a "quiet-mode" switch, and after editing all works fine. But if I could find and fix the source of this strangeness it would avoid my only reasonable current solution, leaving the thing as an .EXE file. Any ideas? Thanx. Msg 41476 is 04 line(s) on 03/15/89 from ANDY SHAPIRO to ED FOSTER re: DISK I'll send you some utilities shortly (though you probably have everything that I have - since I'm (mostly) a CP/M person. 10NET runs perfectly with Paradox now - though the user of the superstation complains that it 'slows down my PC.' Well, surprise! Anyway, all fixed. Msg 41477 is 08 line(s) on 03/15/89 from PETE CANTELE to ALL re: FOR SALE - HAYES 1200B FOR SALE - HAYES 1200b internal modem. Auto dial/auto answer; can be used as COM1 or COM2 device. Complete with documentation. It works perfectly. I'm going to a 2400 bps modem at COM3. $95 or BEST OFFER! Please call 418-1615. If I don't answer please leave a msg. with my answering machine. Msg 41478 is 06 line(s) on 03/15/89 from PETE CANTELE to JAMES SCHMIDT re: DOS 4.01/WP 5.0 James, It sounds like you might have an extra copy of command.com in there somewhere. Perhaps in the word perfect subdirectory. The Dos 3.3 Command.com doesn't work with Dos 4.x so you have to be sure to use the same command.com. (Perhaps you already know all of this.) Msg 41479 is 04 line(s) on 03/15/89 from MICHAEL SZEWCZYK to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/XMODEM CRC This is going to be written in GFA Basic 3.04, on the Atari ST. It is a structured Basic language, very powerful on the ST. Michael Msg 41480 is 15 line(s) on 03/15/89 from BERND SCHUMACHER to ALL re: CONTACT EUROPE/GERMANY *Hi Folks, Date : 12th March 1989 order to waste our money, we deceided to post that message on your screen. u are suffering from the same disease, you should waste your bucks too end a mepsage to the FOOLISH-POWER-RBBS in Cologne, Germany, Europe. ss it to User : GANDHI. the dial prefix for West Germany and dial then 0221-511087:1200,8,n,1 e connected with the FOOL. u are interested in international information interchange, please contact e, my b"q:+Iand me, are using an AMIGA 1000 PC and an IBM AT. log in, type the following terms after beeing connected to host : : GAST PASSWORD : GAST send a Message, use the command BRIEF GANDHI. ommand "BRIEF GANDHI" means to post a Message in the personal mail of GANDHI. Msg 41481 is 08 line(s) on 03/15/89 from JAMES SCHMIDT to PETE CANTELE re: R/DOS 4.01/WP 5.0 Pete, Thanks but I am 101% sure I have only 1 command.com. I have built a floppy based system and WP requested I send it to them. I have a CIS thread running and others can reproduce this problem but no solutions as yet. Common denominators so far are: DOS 4.01 (IBM and MS), VGA Display or EGA DIsplay adapter, UNDERLINE FONT (actually other that NORMAL FONT). Just weird. James Msg 41482 is 07 line(s) on 03/15/89 from JAMES SCHMIDT to PETE CANTELE re: R/DOS 4.01/WP 5.0 Thanks Pete but I checked thoroughly and only 1 copy of command.com exists. I've talked to other users on CIS and other BBS's and they can create that same problem. Talked to WP Customer Service and mailed them a DOS Documentation diskette to run on their system and hopefully create the problem there. It seems you need DOS 4.01 (either IBM or MS) a VGA/EGA adapter and configure WP to use other than NORMAL FONT for the Display. James Msg 41483 is 04 line(s) on 03/15/89 from COLIN SCHROEDER to JIM ANDERSON re: R/80387-16 CHIPS thanks for the info. 16mhz is what i'm looking for, and was just hoping to find a price better than $330 (actually, i'm waiting for it to bottom out so my wallet doesn't!) any guesses as to what the 'rock-bottom' price will be?! again, thanks for your reply dup. chars. >Function:?piss ?xxxxx >Function:?typ-2 o,wr I don't understand 'TYP-2 O,WR ', WARD Type ? for list of valid commands. 03/16/89,00:28:53,203602,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#41484, E#41485, E#41486, E#41487,31 ]Tnx for keeping an eye on things... WARD CHRISTENSEN, 03/16/89,01:43:46,203603,1,TOM MOSKOS,OAK PARK IL,6 03/16/89,02:07:05,203604,2,MICHAEL KAUFMAN,evanston il,3 03/16/89,02:25:14,203605,2,JIM MORAVEC,,6 03/16/89,06:25:28,203606,1,BOB AXEL,MUNDELEIN/ IL.,12 03/16/89,06:58:44,203607,2,ALEX ZELL,,2 ]See the Tempo section of the Trib this morning. ALEX ZELL, 03/16/89,08:00:16,203608,1,DONNA BEITEL,Aurora/ Illinois,4 ]I'll be back after I figure out how this works - thanks for being there. DONNA BEITEL, 03/16/89,08:11:21,203609,2,TOM LAMB,Chicago,22 03/16/89,08:34:28,203610,1,BOB JOHNSON,chgo,3 03/16/89,08:38:01,203611,1,BILL RUTING,,12 03/16/89,09:35:23,203612,2,IRV SHAPIRO,SKOKIE/ IL,3 03/16/89,09:40:53,203613,9,MIKE ANDREWS,,7 03/16/89,09:59:19,203614,1,JOHN ELLIS,chicago/ IL,29 03/16/89,10:26:51,203615,1,H H,apple, 03/16/89,10:37:13,203616,1,BRIAN GROSSMAN,SKOKIE,24 03/16/89,11:07:35,203617,1,JEFF SIMPSON,,8 03/16/89,11:16:36,203618,2,DENNIS STAHL,,3 03/16/89,11:26:53,203619,1,DAVE SCHLOSKY,NAPERVILLE,13 03/16/89,11:42:04,203620,1,RICK BLAKE,,16 03/16/89,12:11:45,203621,3,KEN NESS,,9 03/16/89,12:36:16,203622,1,LEE CLANTON,,4 03/16/89,13:06:48,203623,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,3 03/16/89,13:18:05,203624,1,DAVE BATTY,warrenville, >Help: SD, >Help: SV,30 03/16/89,13:46:32,203625,1,A A,, 03/16/89,13:54:35,203626,2,CHUCK L HEAD,cheeseland,31 03/16/89,14:19:26,203627,3,RAY NEFF,,10 03/16/89,14:34:37,203628,2,LIJKY GHIGHIHJUO,FGIGHIGHI/JHLJ,0 03/16/89,14:36:48,203629,1,N N,P[OP[, 03/16/89,14:58:28,203630,2,TOM LAMB,, 03/16/89,15:24:13,203631,2,NICK PALOMBO,CHICAGO/ IL,5 03/16/89,15:31:23,203632,1,DAVE BATTY,,2 03/16/89,15:42:01,203633,1,DAVE BATTY,,3 03/16/89,16:03:39,203634,2,HERB SCHULZ,,1 03/16/89,16:20:19,203635,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,, E#41488,4 03/16/89,16:28:04,203636,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1 03/16/89,16:29:52,203637,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,, E#41489,4 03/16/89,16:38:57,203638,2,JIM MILLS,,5 ]Hi Ward! Long time, no talk. I saw the article in the Trib's Tempo section today, glad to see it mentions you and Randy as developers of CBBS, too bad it didn't give the phone number like it did for two other BBSes. Owell, maybe talk to you later -- thinking about starting my BBS up again (it's been idle 6 months+), but this time on a PC instead of CP/M. Wonder what you've read/heard about different BBS programs for the PC? Catch you later. JIM MILLS, 03/16/89,17:13:00,203639,3,CHARLENE AVANTS,,13 03/16/89,17:26:29,203640,3,CHARLENE AVANTS,, 03/16/89,18:14:08,203641,2,ANDREW DECKOWITZ,, E#41490,30 03/16/89,18:48:45,203642,1,BRIAN GROSSMAN,,30 03/16/89,19:18:09,203643,1,JAMES WALSH,OAK PARK,4 03/16/89,19:21:21,203644,1,KVIN KEYSER,,5 03/16/89,19:34:26,203645,1,PHIL COSGROVE,chicago/ il,10 03/16/89,20:32:32,203646,1,JOHN ELLIS,, E#41491,16 03/16/89,20:54:54,203647,1,BARRY POLLACK,,16 03/16/89,21:23:31,203648,2,MARTY DIPPEL,, E#41492, E#41493,29 03/16/89,21:59:36,203649,1,PAT LYONS,CHICAGO,18 03/16/89,22:21:22,203650,1,JOHN ELLIS,,3 03/16/89,22:24:27,203651,2,ED FOSTER,,2 03/16/89,22:48:53,203652,2,RICHARD KOZIOL,Chicago/ Il,32 03/16/89,22:59:20,203653,2,JIM POLOUS,,1 03/16/89,23:26:38,203654,9,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, >Function:?find lijky ghighihjuo 20362, ,LIJKY GHIGHIHJUO , ,03/16/89,14:34,41488,214 G0 Recording logon for next time. >Function:?or;* 41484 03/16/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => PAUL STREETER: "CBBS LOGONS" 41485 03/16/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MARIO PACHECO: "R/JOB" 41486 03/16/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => COLIN SCHROEDER: "R/80387-16 CHIPS" 41487 03/16/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BILL MATTSON: "R/IMSAI" 41488 03/16/89 ANDY SHAPIRO => JAMES SCHMIDT: "R/DOS 4.01/WP 5.0" 41489 03/16/89 JAMES SCHMIDT => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/DOS 4.01/WP 5.0" 41490 03/16/89 ANDREW DECKOWITZ => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "ARTICLE IN TODAY'S TRIB" 41491 03/16/89 JOHN ELLIS => ALL: "NEW CHICAGO USER" 41492 03/16/89 MARTY DIPPEL => WARD: "CONGRATULATIONS!" 41493 03/16/89 MARTY DIPPEL => ALL: "ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 41484 is 21 line(s) on 03/16/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to PAUL STREETER re: CBBS LOGONS CBBS is "coded" to take 3 "any chars" to wake up - I wait for the MODEM to tell me the speed - yet some times it seems to take more like 6 or so. Basically, my CBBS logon script doesn't care how many it takes - the script file line is: pat; pat 1i CBBS pat 2i Welcome pf1 while n put "\r" wait sleep 1 put \013 pat 1 "1st time" pat 3 "FIRST" wait What that does is set up pattern 1 to Immediately match "CBBS", and also set up pattern 2 to immediately recognize "Welcome." should that slip by (normally the ^K will prevent the welcome, but now 100%). PF1 sets the pattern fail time to 1 second, then the WHILE sends a CR until either a CBBS or a Welcome shows up. I then sleep for .1 second (sleeps are in .1 sec intervals), and put a \013 - a ^K, then go on. Msg 41485 is 05 line(s) on 03/16/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to MARIO PACHECO re: R/JOB Carey Hidaka is probably the guy to talk to - call 245-2000. I don't know if any positions are open or not. Manuel was an "outstanding" candidate. P.S. I don't get the bit about driving 30 miles - I > think < the jobs are only open to students - or at least that is the implication - but come to think of it I'm not sure. Msg 41486 is 02 line(s) on 03/16/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to COLIN SCHROEDER re: R/80387-16 CHIPS Have you bought a Computer Shopper? That seems to be the place to find the lowest costs. They have 'em at Krochs, etc. Msg 41487 is 03 line(s) on 03/16/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to BILL MATTSON re: R/IMSAI What worries me is that the Smithsonian would probably want CBBS to WORK - which would be nearly impossible - single sided floppies, etc - not sure I can R/W 'em any more. Msg 41488 is 12 line(s) on 03/16/89 from ANDY SHAPIRO to JAMES SCHMIDT re: R/DOS 4.01/WP 5.0 I have a friend who is running WP 4.2 under MS-DOS 3.30 on genuine IBM equipment (an ancient 4.77 MHz PC). She has been getting the same message on exiting to DOS, and the machine hangs. HOWEVER. We have reason to suspect a problem with at least one RAM chip. It may be the case that WP 5 places greater demands on memory, and certain marginal chips are showing up. Suggestion: Some of the folks out there with this problem are probably using 8/10/12 MHz machines running at 12 MHz. Suggest that they should try running WP in a slower mode (or make sure they're using wait states) and see if the problem goes away. I don't know if this will fix things, but, given the truly marginal RAM I've seen in some clones, it seems worth a shot. Msg 41489 is 09 line(s) on 03/16/89 from JAMES SCHMIDT to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/DOS 4.01/WP 5.0 I agree totally that a bad RAM chip can cause a whole slew of bizzare problems. I have been involved with several other WP 5.0 users on Compuserve that past week or so and several other users can recreate the problem. Can all those users have bad RAM. And besides it does not fail with IBM DOS 3.3 and it makes a difference as to what screen font WP is configured to use. If a RAM chip is bad I think the version of DOS and screen font whould make minimal difference. Yes? No? James Msg 41490 is 29 line(s) on 03/16/89 from ANDREW DECKOWITZ to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: ARTICLE IN TODAY'S TRIB ward, i don't know if you receive the chicago tribune, but in today's edition, in the Tempo section, there was an article on bbs communication that mentioned you and Randy. it is reproduced below (verbatim) 'The founding fathers' That was no problem for the two men who in 1978 invented the computer bulletin board, Randy Seuss (sic) of Chicago and Ward Christensen of south suburban Dalton. Both were members of the Chicago Area Computer Hobbyist Exchange, and it occurred to them that CACHE needed a place to exchange messages. So one snowy weekend, Christensen hacked out a bulletin board program, and Seuss (sic) put up the board in his basement. They called it CBBS/Chicago (for Computer Bulletin Board System/Chicago), and trademarked the name. "The trademark sounds silly today because the name sounds so generic," says Christensen. "But remember it was the first one, when 'bulletin board' would have meant cork and push pins. And CBBS/Chicago (545-8086) was set up as a message board, not a download board. It still is. I'd rather have people sharing ideas rather than programs. Otherwise it's just tied up hour after hour with downloading." Nevertheless, it was Christensen who invented Xmodem, the first program to detect and correct errors as programs were sent from one computer to another. Without error checking, telephone line noise may add bogus bits and bytes to software, rendering it useless. Without error checking, BBSes would still be message boards. the article begins with a discussion of popular BBSes nationwide (like Exec-PC) and ends with a section on Andrew Fluegelman's PC-Talk and shareware/freeware. just thought that you would be interested in the above excerpts. >andy< Msg 41491 is 05 line(s) on 03/16/89 from JOHN ELLIS to ALL re: NEW CHICAGO USER Greetings, I am born and bred Chicagoan, returning from a four year stint in the jungles of New York City; I finished a master program in business at NYU, and learned how to use my PC. Now I would like to find out about what's available in BBSes. Can someone tell me where I can get the Darwin USBBS list? Msg 41492 is 11 line(s) on 03/16/89 from MARTY DIPPEL to WARD re: CONGRATULATIONS! I also saw the article in today's paper. Just wanted to pass along my congrats, and wish you best of luck on getting the original CBBS hardware into the Smithsonian. Any luck on finding another prop for the water heater? I wonder if there is any hope of getting the originalsystem functional again? I left this question on chinet, but post it here as well: How did you ever meet Randy? Were you friends before the inspiration for CBBS struck? And- just how did all this BBS stuff get started, anyway? This might be better discussed over pizza than here, but in light of all the hist- orical interest, could you give it an abbreviated shot here? I'll bet I'm not the only one who's curious! Msg 41493 is 14 line(s) on 03/16/89 from MARTY DIPPEL to ALL re: ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES I'm writing a batch file in MS-DOS that adds a variable to the environment. In my particular case, I call it USR. It contains the login ID that I will later use (by another batch file) to keep user's directories separate. Here's the problem: I'm using an HP Vectra that uses a DOS shell (PAM). One of the menu choices from PAM is "MS-DOS Commands". Once selected, it invokes COMMAND.COM to give me a command interpreter. While using this new shell, I create the environment variable. If I return to PAM (using the command EXIT ) then return to COMMAND.COM, I find my variable has disappeared. Odd, since the rest of the environment (PROMPT, SHELL, etc.) survives intact. Is there a way of "exporting" environment variables so they survive the termination of the current command processor? >Function:?