Path: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news!uhog.mit.edu!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!mack.rt66.com!pmh11 From: kalmoth@rt66.com (Peter Vorobieff) Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.answers,news.answers Subject: [soc.culture.russian] SCR and Cyrillization FAQ: part 1/4 (charter and posting guidelines) Followup-To: soc.culture.russian Date: Mon, 05 Aug 96 01:00:22 GMT Organization: The Pit of Shoggoths Lines: 212 Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.EDU Expires: 06 Sep 1996 23:59:59 GMT Message-ID: <4u3h36$99g_002@pmh11.rt66.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pmh11.rt66.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 Xref: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu soc.culture.russian:58815 soc.answers:5817 news.answers:78798 Archive-Name: cultures/russian/charter Posting-Frequency: monthly Last-Modified: 1996/08/04 Version: 2.0 URL: http://www.rt66.com/~kalmoth/scrFAQ.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This part of SOC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN FAQ answers the questions: 1.1 - What is S.C.R.? - What is the language of S.C.R.? - What should and should not be posted to S.C.R.? - What other newsgroups with related topics exist? - Is the Charter in this FAQ official? - Is this FAQ official? 1.2 - What to post and NOT to post? - How to react to net abuse? - Why hate speech articles cannot be eliminated? - How to react to hate speech? - How to react to an article you LIKED? - What is a killfile and how to use it? - Whom to killfile? - What is the crossposting strategy? 1.1 SOC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN CHARTER Newsgroups line: soc.culture.russian All things Russian in the broadest sense. CHARTER SOC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN is an unmoderated newsgroup for free exchange of information, ideas and opinions on Russian culture, language, history, economy, science and all other topics related to Russia in the geographical, national, political and cultural sense of the word. Posts of five types listed immediately below bear NO relevance to the topics of soc.culture.russian: 1. Discussion of the alleged massacre of Turks by Armenians in the beginning of the twentieth century. 2. Claims that Nazi crimes in 1933-1945 never happened. 3. All national hatemongering (represented by the typical cliche "All [...] are [cowards|idiots|traitors|...]). 4. Unwanted and unsolicited commercial advertisements. 5. Massive crossposts hitting more than ten newsgroups. The topics pertaining primarily to the study of Russian as a foreign language and to international contacts between children studying Russian at school should belong in k12.lang.russian rather than in soc.culture.russian. The topics pertaining primarily to the heritage of problems left by the Soviet Union and its dissolution should belong in soc.culture.soviet rather than in soc.culture.russian. Likewise, the current political affairs between the former republics of the Soviet Union should be discussed in alt.current-events.russia and in talk.politics.soviet rather than in soc.culture.russian. The primary languages in the newsgroup are English and Russian (in Latin transliteration and in KOI-8 [RFC-1489] Cyrillic). END CHARTER The Charter as reproduced above is the official Charter of soc.culture.russian. Its text was accepted by the same vote that created the newsgroup. There were politically motivated attempts to distribute a fake charter. The real thing, however, is stored at this site (and in a couple of other places), as one can verify by checking the official UUNET archives: URL: ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/soc/soc.culture.russian The charter, the voting results and all the RFDs and CFVs are stored there. As to FAQs, there is no such thing as an "official FAQ" in an unmoderated newsgroup. Anybody can write one. 1.2 SOC.CULTURE.RUSSIAN POSTING SUGGESTIONS The material below expresses the personal opinion of Peter Vorobieff on the matter, and is in no way binding, but be advised that if you don't follow the guidelines below, chances are that the greater part of the readers of soc.culture.russian will hate your guts. The newsgroup is unmoderated, which means that anything not grossly off-topic or beyond the written and unwritten laws of the net goes. Usenet is so diverse that it would be difficult to provide any guidelines for "acceptable behavior." It's easy to describe what is _unacceptable_, as there are but a few things clearly off-limits: massive crossposts (as indicated in the Charter), spams (see news.admin.net-abuse.misc FAQ for the definition of this term), posts of pyramid schemes ("MAKE MONEY FAST" and the likes), forged posts and binary dumps. Usenet does not take kindly to this kind of abuse and protects itself from abusers. If you see a "MAKE MONEY FAST" post, a post that has been posted to many (twenty or more) newsgroups or a uuencoded post of the source code of a cruise missile control program, the right way to react is either to ignore the thing or to send a POLITE e-mail message to the postmaster of the site from which the net abuse appears to propagate, with a carbon copy to the perpetrator. The totally WRONG way to react is to post an indignant follow-up to the thing without even bothering to check to how many groups it will be dumped. If you see an obviously forged article (for instance, something that appears to be written by you but definitely wasn't), the task of tracking down the perp may be hard. If the content of the article is potentially damaging (say, it contains a request on your behalf for weapon-grade uranium or a sexual proposal to Socks the Presidential Cat), you must immediately contact your own postmaster and notify him|her|it of the problem. You can cancel the forgery or, if you don't know how, ask your postmaster to do it. Posting a request to help you in finding the site from which the forgery had originated to news.admin.net-abuse.misc can also be a reasonable idea. Some amateurish forgeries can be traced by the NNTP-Posting-Host or Path lines in the header easily enough. However, a good forgery is practically untraceable. Compared with spams and the like, ad hominem flames, nationalistic rants and other irritating but local things are not immediately criminal and normally should not require any police or vigilante action. It must be stated that though national hatemongering is explicitly prohibited on soc.culture.russian, very few entities (it is not known whether they deserve to be called humans) do routinely violate this prohibition and post demented hate-filled rants. As censoring even hate speech is a touchy issue, the best way to deal with the hatemongers is to ignore them. If this sounds too saintly for you, you always can write e-mail (not POST) to the sender of the article you did not like and tell him|her|it that you did not like his|her|its post. This works MUCH more effectively than following-up to a rant and keeps the noise level of the newsgroup lower. On the other hand, if you LIKED somebody's article, it is also good to send a short message of appreciation to the author via e-mail. Don't post a followup if you have nothing of relevance to add. It is wise to KILLFILE the posters whom you see to post nothing of interest - it saves both your nerves and your time. KILLFILE feature allows you to select the posters whom you don't like and let your newsreader automatically filter their articles, so in your corner of cyberspace these obnoxious halfwits just cease to exist. Not all the newsreaders have the killfile feature. I suggest that you use one that DOES have it. Some of the characters who, in the opinion of the maintainer of this FAQ, post a lot while contribute nothing are listed below. dfly@infinet.com Dragon@Darkstar.siberia.ru Serge Viznyuk (Dragon Fly) - The Only True Russian on Internet. Enough said. dlv@bwalk.dm.com simvlad@bwalk.dm.com Dimitri Vulis, a.k.a. "Dr. Dimitri Vulis." At the moment, the only purpose of his net.existence seems to post ad hominem insults addressed at various net.personae or to disrupt votes for creation of new newsgroups. Some information on Vulis can be found at the URL URL: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/net-legends-faq/part3/faq.h tml (net.kooks FAQ) An interesting parody by David Sewell is at the URL URL: http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/~dsew/Netwriting/no-exit.html Finally, Matt Legare's Kook of the Month page now also has some stuff on Vulis: URL: http://www.wetware.com/mlegare/kotm/winnersk96.html#may96 Crossposting between related but distinct newsgroups (for soc.culture.russian this usually means crossposts from/to soc.culture.soviet or soc.culture.russian.moderated) now constitutes the greater part of the traffic of soc.culture.russian. Excessive crossposting (in particular, crossposting of flamefests) lowers the discussion level in the group, so refer to the charter to see where your post belongs and keep crossposting to absolute minimum. In general, do unto your neighbor what your neighbor wants to do unto you, and do it fast - you may not have the chance to reload. Or, put simpler, UZI does it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBMgVN8oGFfGJmeuwpAQEzqgL9HsvP+tDTGx7vS6Eg1F+AE11gIeeb7HOY X0IBEb3+ShNKPVY5lPW+s7LyldUmXcoQYPDmBYPvECtiSTqTTgIUNSn4Tcv7/Omr 1JUCRcdOCuUzsIhW8uium0g2N33+9uYe =8E0q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- There is no me but me, and pv02@lehigh.edu and kalmoth@rt66.com are my only true addresses. All my articles are PGP-signed. My PGP public key is at URL: http://www.lehigh.edu/~pv02/pgpkey.txt