From: Phil Jones To: "Michael E. Mann" Subject: Re: Fw: Law Dome O18 Date: Mon Feb 9 15:50:09 2004 Mike, These were two simple ones to provide. Also Tas told him I had one of them. I guess these are the ones that aren't available on web sites. Anyway, it is done now. If he starts asking for them in dribs and drabs, I'll baulk at that. Ben waded in with very positive comments re the CC issue. Steve's going to find it very hard to ask you to send the code. Those that say on the CC board that you should send the code, have little idea what is involved. Most are on the social science side. Cheers Phil At 10:19 09/02/2004 -0500, you wrote: HI Phil, Personally, I wouldn't send him anything. I have no idea what he's up to, but you can be sure it falls into the "no good" category. There are a few series from our '03 paper that he won't have--these include the latest Jacoby and D'Arrigo, which I digitized from their publication (they haven't made it publicly available) and the extended western North American series, which they wouldn't be able to reproduce without following exactly the procedure described in our '99 GRL paper to remove the estimated non-climatic component. I would not give them *anything*. I would not respond or even acknowledge receipt of their emails. There is no reason to give them any data, in my opinion, and I think we do so at our own peril! talk to you later, mike At 02:46 PM 2/9/2004 +0000, Phil Jones wrote: Mike, FYI. Sent him the two series - the as received versions. Wonder what he's up to? Why these two series ? Used a lot more in the 1998 paper. Didn't want the Alerce series. Must already have the Tassy series from Ed. I know Ed has a more recent series than we used in 1998. Got this for the 2003 work. Cheers Phil From: "Steve McIntyre" To: "Phil Jones" Subject: Fw: Law Dome O18 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 08:05:23 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [65.49.25.138] using ID at Mon, 9 Feb 2004 08:02:13 -0500 Dear Phil, Tas van Ommen has refered me to you for the version of his dataset that you used in Jones et al Holocene 1998 and I would appreicate a copy. I would also appreciate a copy of the Lenca series used in this study. Regards, Steve McIntyre Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________ Professor Michael E. Mann Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22903 _______________________________________________________________________ e-mail: mann@virginia.edu Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137 [1]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml Prof. Phil Jones Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090 School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784 University of East Anglia Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk NR4 7TJ UK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- References 1. http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml