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Ok this is a little
experiment I've been doing that started off as a mistake as most things do the
pictures speak for themselves I guess:
This is a pic of pins coming up from substrate that was badly contammed on half of the substrate so it was pitched into a gigantic pile of oak tree leaves,pine needles, and other various leaves that have been decomposing for quite sometime:
Here is a pic of some I
picked this morning and I've picked about 2 dry ounces so far from one substrate
that everytime it rains an assload come up:
|By SolveEtCoagula (Qlop) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 05:33 pm: Edit|
This subtrate was not supposed to live...this subtrate keeps pumping
out shrooms...I hesitated to post this for last few weeks because I didn't want
to mislead people but I believe I found something very interesting...
I stepped this project up a bit and decided to throw 2 more 1foot long and 7 inch wide straw subtrates buried into oak leaves and see if I just got lucky (these were substrates that had 0 contams)...Today after a small rain they are pinning. I also threw out another substrate that got contammed in the same pod as the one that grew the pics of the shrooms above it is also pinning.
There are a few things I find interesting about this....are those mushrooms with the oakleaves all stuck in them feeding off the nutrients from the oak leaves? Has anyone ever thought of cubensis+oakleaves= above pics? I'm not an expert by any means I consider my self novice so I would like the more knowledgable to may be help me out with this and do it along with me. If this hasn't already been tried that is.
I would like to go get a ton of these oak leaves and pasteurise them or sterilise them im not sure which is best. If you want give me some input and make some "oak leave logs" and see how well they do in our chambers then post here. I have a feeling oakleaves have tons of nutrients to provide these mushies with a VERY loving atmosphere indoors as I've seen flushes out of subtrates that shouldn't even be doing anything at all. However I lack the knowledge needed to make this a good tek so I ask for help from hippie and you guys who know a lot more than me to help me a bit a long the way and may be we will find some super substrate hehe.
First few questions...
Should I start this project or has it been done?
Should I sterilise or pasteurise the leaves?
|By rodger rabbit (Skyypilot) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:03 pm:|
It's been said for a long time to throw all contaminated product into your garden. The trich will leave for 'greener pastures' and leave the mushies to fruit. I put all contams into houseplants. The houseplants love the mycelia, and they actually fruit from the potting soil.
|By Mod Maliki (Maliki) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:19 pm:|
Very nice . Ive been doing the same thing with my scrap. But I have yet to pick anything from them . Time will tell I guess.
|By SolveEtCoagula (Qlop) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:27 pm:|
Well my main goal is to try and see if Oak leaves will work as a substrate and if so how well : ) but I wnated the experts to tell me why or why nto they think this would or wont work basically hehe
|By micro (Micro) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:41 pm:|
Mushroom mycelium can eat cellulose, so I thought it was possible (a
prev. thread at the Shroomery) but I had never actually seen it in action.
Thanks for the post!
I don't know how good of a substrate *just* dried leaves would make, but if you try, please post. I'd probably crumble them or something. You'd also have to fiddle with the water content.
|By Soliver (Soliver) on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 09:50 pm:|
Nice pics -
I too have been pleasantly surprised by my offings at times - keep up the
good work and let us know what you find.
I've always wondered about pine straw - did they grow just from the leaves or the straw too?