Ready To Use Seed/grain Spawn
|Posted by: Mycota Dec 07 02, 08:52 AM GMT|
| Have you ever just recieved a new strain & wanted to knock up a fresh jar or bag with it. But, did not feel like cranking up the PC, for one reason or another.
Just keep a few already PC'ed jars or bags of seed/grain in your FREEZER (in a tightly sealed plastic bag). Just thaw out (to room temp) however many you want to use & go for it.
|Posted by: DirtyWOP Dec 07 02, 09:01 AM GMT|
| That sounds like a cool idea....
I always find myself only pc'ing one thing, like a flask or something, and leaving the rest empty. What a space waste! Now I am going to fill up my empty spaces with the future!!!
|Posted by: Mycota Dec 07 02, 09:05 AM GMT|
| Ya just gotta love these things.............
They will never replace jars, for everything. But, if you are into "bulk" spawn. These are the way to go. You can do many multiples of quarts, 1/2 gallons or gallons of spawn at one time.
This is where having a LARGE PC, pays off.
Just FYI, if you have a AA 941 (or any large PC) & jam it full of these. Raise your PC time to 4 full hours.
Oh yay. You don't need no impulse sealer -- either. You can seal these puppies just FINE, with butchers twine (as in multiple ply heavy cotton string).
|Posted by: DirtyWOP Dec 07 02, 01:04 PM GMT|
| Is there anything I should know before I fill my very large spawn bags w/ birdseed???
When I pc seed in jars, I just mix it in the jars......should I use the same ratio for very large spawn bags? I mean these things are like 2 ft long, thats a lot of grain spawn in one place.
|Posted by: Mycota Dec 07 02, 01:28 PM GMT|
| To many variables to give you a proper answer.
I presoak my seed/grain (millet / milo mix), then load into bags.
I use 1, 2 & 3 liter bags, w/filter/patch.
I usualy tie the tops closed (loosely) with butchers twine.
I use an AA 941 PC & if it is near full. I PC @ 15 lbs, a full 4 hours.
I tighten the ties up, as I remove them from the PC.
|Posted by: HapplyDeranged Dec 07 02, 04:33 PM GMT|
|how do you put a filter patch on your bags??|
|Posted by: Malformed Dec 07 02, 04:58 PM GMT|
| spawn bags come like that as far as i know.
but, believe they are put on with an impulse sealer type machine.
melts the plastic to the filter patch.
|Posted by: HapplyDeranged Dec 07 02, 05:28 PM GMT|
|i can get autoclaveable bags in the thousands cheap and was going to make my own mycobags. all i need to know is how to attach the tyvek to the bag.....i guess i could experiment but i know there is a tek somewhere i just can find it....bin on every web page i could find.....please someone help|
|Posted by: Mycota Dec 08 02, 04:49 AM GMT|
You can find tyveck free at the USPS -- Free, the express envelopes are made from it.
You can also find 2 X 100 ft rolls of it @ Lowes & Home depot @ around $50.
But, no need. If you have good bags.
Now ponder this.
Go to any auto supply place. Buy several feet of large bore radiator type heater hose & a hand full good screw down type metal hose clamps (all togather under $10 - $15).
Simply, insert about a 3 inch peice of heater hose in a bag - at the neck, screw a hose clamp on & stuff the hose with polyfil.
Get the picture? The heater hose & polyfil with withstand being PC'ed.
If you have some Tyveck material, slide it over the hose & clamp it on.
Either -- will serve to give you gas exchange & you are good to go.
|Posted by: DirtyWOP Dec 08 02, 08:08 AM GMT|
| Thats a hell of an idea!!!
|Posted by: ShroomVator Dec 09 02, 06:03 PM GMT|
| Fungusmaximus is working hard on spawn bags at home and has made awesome progress!
|Posted by: Mycota Dec 09 02, 07:19 PM GMT|
That brings on ~~De~~Ja~~Vu~~ bad.
I fooled with that sort of thing about 1 year ago. Because I stumbled into a box of 1000 high quality autoclave bags for cheap & snapped them up.
Long story short. A 3 inch peice of 1 inch bore radiator or heater hose works GREAT, as a bag neck. A screw down type heater hose clamp works great to hold it in place. Both will withstand PC'ing - perfectly.
You can stuff the hose with polyfill, as a filter material. Or use filter disk type clothe, or tyvck over the bag neck, held down with the clamp. Easy, quick, cheap & the stuff can be found anywhere - cheap.
The next trick I learned was to PRE/SOAK the seed/grain overnight, then load the bags with it, then PC.
Also bump up your PC time like double or triple, if you are doing multiples of big bags - at once - in a big PC. I run them 4 full hours @ 15lbs.
After PC'ing & cooling to room temp:
You can innoc with a syringe, by placing a piece of tape over a spot, innoc'ing through it, then add another piece of tape over the first one.
You can innoc with agar wedges or G2G, just as easy. In a CLEAN ENVIRO (preferably hepa filtered), Simply remove the bag neck & spoon whatever in. Then, reclose it, shake & you are good to go.
|Posted by: Millet Dec 10 02, 02:05 PM GMT|
| Impulse sealers often go for less than $30 on ebay.
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Dec 10 02, 11:13 PM GMT|
| I have to say that is a marvelous idea Mycota!!! I love it!! Im still trying to nail it down and think it can be better, but this is it it all smooth sailing from here brother
You don't mind if I illustrate your idea in my journal do ya? Ill give proper reference to the creator. Mycota
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Jan 06 03, 09:42 PM GMT|
| Here are two mycobags one w/ sterilized birdseed one w/sterilize dung straw mix. After PC ing they went straight to the freezer. When thawed they should be ok, right?
|Posted by: DirtyWOP Jan 06 03, 09:44 PM GMT|
| I don't see why not
unless the ice tears your millet kernals apart
but shaking isn't a big deal with bags......
so I guess it's all gravy
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Jan 06 03, 10:36 PM GMT|
|Posted by: NyQuil Jan 06 03, 10:45 PM GMT|
| My friend keeps spawn bags in the fridge for a few days after PCing. Other than a bit of condensation at the top of the bag, which you can shake shake shake in, havent heard of any contams.
|Posted by: Mycota Jan 06 03, 11:20 PM GMT|
|I have froze them & they worked fine. Mycota|