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|Posted by: Nanook Aug 18 03, 09:36 PM GMT|
|I thought that this would make a nice entry, the book is a classic and very out of print|
|Posted by: BoxedFarts Aug 18 03, 11:56 PM GMT|
|If Im not mistaken those are the pen names of Terrance and Dennis McKenna....and the strain pictured (He mentioned it in a lecture I downloaded) is PES Hawaiian|
|Posted by: relic Aug 19 03, 12:32 AM GMT|
|that's awesome nan|
|Posted by: highroller Aug 19 03, 01:23 AM GMT|
| True pioneers.
I remember seeing this when I was a young pup. It's not until recently that I have realized it's magnitude.
Can I get an amen?
edited to say, "thanks Nan".
|Posted by: mjshroomer Aug 19 03, 02:36 AM GMT|
| For the record, images were by Irimias the Obscure (Jeremy Bigwood) and the other two were Terences ex Kat who did the illustrations and also many contributions in the book were also made by Jonathan Ott.
|Posted by: dcyans Mar 30 03, 11:56 AM GMT|
| Some foaf's pics of what is was like BEFORE PF Tek
|Posted by: sinoptik Mar 30 03, 01:14 PM GMT|
|wow, thats pretty cool dcyans. how long ago did you purchase that book?|
|Posted by: dcyans Mar 30 03, 01:16 PM GMT|
| If my memory serves me it was back in "78"
|Posted by: killdannow Mar 30 03, 02:37 PM GMT|
| holy shit cyans, you could proly auction it off for a fortune. Not that
you'd want to.
I gotta say everything seems easy now, but I remember my first wbs - I was never much of a pf tek guy. I only did it once actually- that it worked.
|Posted by: eatyualive Mar 30 03, 02:42 PM GMT|
|kickass. hehe my foaf has tried that tek b4 from that exact book back in the day!|
|Posted by: Voodoo Mar 30 03, 03:01 PM GMT|
|I was in Canada a while back and a head shop had that book for sale. Ten bucks. I should have grabbed it.|
|Posted by: BadPunk6 Mar 30 03, 03:50 PM GMT|
|wow.....that makes me feel really young|
|Posted by: Sgt.Poop Mar 31 03, 01:10 PM GMT|
|its a cool way to do it.. cause all you do is add casing too the top of it... when my friend first started that's what he did,, but i swear you won't get many contams + the depth of the substrate can make for some biggys, and he said you can get from 5-7 flushes...|
|Posted by: flatalbert Mar 31 03, 01:16 PM GMT|
| My dad said something about it when I was a youngun that he had that book back in the day. T'was before my time. Very nice.
The only thing that people would have to worry about is pins on the side, but when the cake shrinks, some casing can be crammed down in there or foil can be put over the sides before casing.
Kind of like taking a PF jar with contam barrier and opening it up once colonized.
Beautymous! Good work.
|Posted by: dcyans Apr 01 03, 06:54 PM GMT|
| Stopped by my foaf's house to see the progress
He said he already picked a couple of big ones (10gms. each)
|Posted by: groingrinder Apr 11 03, 02:59 PM GMT|
|Yep that is the book that started it for me. Back in 77 or 78.|
|Posted by: trinity Apr 11 03, 03:57 PM GMT|
|damn why did anyone ever do pf tek? this seems alot better....any thoughts on this compared to pf tek?|
|Posted by: Room4Shroom Apr 11 03, 04:02 PM GMT|
|What an awesome tek! They look great!|
|Posted by: dcyans Apr 11 03, 06:04 PM GMT|
| Hey buds second flush action going on
|Posted by: ShroomVator Apr 12 03, 08:20 AM GMT|
|Whats the yield like on that exercise?|
|Posted by: dcyans Apr 12 03, 08:54 AM GMT|
|40+ dried 1st flush|
|Posted by: ShroomVator Apr 13 03, 12:58 AM GMT|
| Not bad at all!
|Posted by: looselucy Apr 13 03, 09:42 AM GMT|
|I think people started doing pf tek because they live in the capatilistic west. Terrance and dennis didn't "sell" there product only ideas. PF, as most know from hightimes and web, sold product which is what people wanted. where do I get spores? well if you have the product might as well get info too.|
|Posted by: Dr. Bombay Apr 13 03, 10:54 AM GMT|
| I have that book and did it in the big jars in the early '80s. PF tek and others are superior because there was a high incedence of contamination with the big jars. the vermiculite on top greatly reduces that, and the availability of syringes and flow hood designs really help. I suspect that with all the knowledge available and the attention to sterile technique, the ancient tek would work much better. Also, it was hard to get multiple flushes, and water would pool at the bottom of the big jars and get bacteria.
|Posted by: dcyans Apr 13 03, 11:47 AM GMT|
|Posted by: dcyans Apr 30 03, 07:01 PM GMT|
| Here are some third flush beauties
of the rye grain jars
|Posted by: dcyans Apr 30 03, 07:03 PM GMT|
| Here is one that weighed in at 22gms. even
not a bad third flush
|Posted by: maryxmas Apr 30 03, 08:34 PM GMT|
| they have it in reprint,
|Posted by: Samsara Apr 30 03, 08:58 PM GMT|
|Dcyans - Did I ever tell you I love your blue fruiting chamber? It's sexy.............|
|Posted by: maryxmas May 01 03, 12:06 AM GMT|
| what are some specifics on the tek
|Posted by: dcyans May 01 03, 06:55 AM GMT|
|Rye grain? in jars and cased? water that does accumulate in the jars can just be carefully poured out so i suppose one cold dunk the cake easily between flushes. also need to wrap jars with foil (i didn't) because its a bugger to get the ones out that have grown between cake and jar. jars are good for 4+ flushes|
|Posted by: LD50 May 01 03, 05:08 PM GMT|
you guys are old!!!!!!!
|Posted by: groingrinder May 01 03, 08:01 PM GMT|
|Posted by: flatalbert May 01 03, 09:07 PM GMT|
| Yeah, you guys are like, crusty or something. . .
MaryXmas- innoc'd grain cased IN the jar. The sides are covered so they don't pin in the jar where they can't be picked.
|Posted by: dcyans May 02 03, 07:10 AM GMT|
|It's more like well seasoned vets not some clown buddy! oh wait thats Krusty! Don't matter no crusty here Just a very focused and methodical man|
|Posted by: Effed May 04 03, 02:23 AM GMT|
| Very Impressive!
|Posted by: LD50 May 04 03, 08:05 AM GMT|
| Hey dcyans
I meant no disrespect in what I said earlier. Its cool that youve been doing this so long! Now I dont feel so bad about not being so great at growing. Some of you guys have been doing this for like 20 years! Damn I hope I keep it up that long!--Magic
|Posted by: dcyans May 04 03, 09:25 AM GMT|
|No disrespect taken|
|Posted by: maryxmas May 04 03, 12:38 PM GMT|
| it must suck to be that old and have to get up 4 times to pee when you are tripping or having to remember to put on a fresh Depends before partaking in the forbidden fruit.
|Posted by: dcyans May 04 03, 01:33 PM GMT|
|Posted by: dcyans May 08 03, 06:50 AM GMT|
|Heres a forth flush BONUS|
|Posted by: dcyans May 08 03, 06:53 AM GMT|
|This large one weighed in at a wopping 24.5 gms.|
|Posted by: flatalbert May 08 03, 08:47 AM GMT|
| With substrate that thick and tall, you are bound to get some big un's. The only disadvantage I would see is that you will get some on the side (even with foil covering the sides) that can be picked and they would get rotty.
Good job mang.
|Posted by: 420M May 13 03, 01:53 PM GMT|
| YEP - That is how "my friend" got "his"FIRST start.
Back B4 PF had even thought of his idea - my FOAF was pickin the boomers out of jars!
WOW - Brings back memories!!
~ 420M ~
|Posted by: dcyans Aug 20 03, 09:18 PM GMT|
|Posted by: highroller Aug 20 03, 09:22 PM GMT|
|Not too shabby ol' timer.|
|Posted by: Zoom Aug 20 03, 09:26 PM GMT|
| Foaf still uses this tek every once in a while.
Especially if the spawn is gettig too old to case. ( Doesn't recolonize as well, prone to contams.)
or, exotic specie like Pans (nature of their mycelium prone to contams). He's found that the less
you disturb the myc the better chance of getting a small amount of fruits. Better than none.
He's gonna try doin some P Tamps like that in a month or so.
It should work, provided they get good airflow.
Thanks for the pics DCyans. Brings back a lot of memories when this was the only way to go.
|Posted by: John Doe Aug 21 03, 04:19 PM GMT|
|getting old is not for sissies|
|Posted by: Nanook Aug 21 03, 04:25 PM GMT|
|I will second that... If you want to look good when you are older, there has got to be some hurt & sacrifice along with eating well and proper rest... No in between...|