|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 07 02, 11:27 PM GMT|
| The armholes.
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 07 02, 11:29 PM GMT|
| The gloves are made of trash bags taped to fit, and heavy chemical gloves.
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 07 02, 11:32 PM GMT|
| Here is one of the interior fans. Attached to them are coffee filter/polyfil air filters housed inside damprid containers.
|Posted by: glasshoppa Nov 07 02, 11:33 PM GMT|
| Very cool, fungus. I've been thinking about making one of those myself, even though I have not run into contam problems yet. But I know I will need one for more advanced activities like cloning, etc.
So... You work with that one on it's side?
Can you get all your shit in their and have room to work with it comfortably?
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 07 02, 11:34 PM GMT|
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 07 02, 11:39 PM GMT|
| The small container hole at the top is filled w/polyfil/coffee filter, its a transfer hole for moving small items in/out of the box without opening the door.
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 07 02, 11:41 PM GMT|
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 07 02, 11:43 PM GMT|
|Its basicaly Nan's modified version of the 9ner glovebox, with a whole lotta duct tape and some air filters.|
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 07 02, 11:47 PM GMT|
yes and yes.
It is an essential tool after you graduate fungus highschool, college is fun!
Im throwing an innoculation party tomorrow!
|Posted by: sooshane Nov 07 02, 11:48 PM GMT|
| Looks good Fungus
how much ya want for it.
lol, damn I'm lazy.
I like the damp rid filter
|Posted by: Freakalickilish Nov 07 02, 11:51 PM GMT|
| VERY cool fungus...
In My opinion ( Someone new to your little group here )
And since you posted this up will give ya muh advice
I would do without the gloves.
With the two fans and some dust masks,
there should be enough positive pressure in the box
to do without those heavy, bulky things.
Ya can't fool me cause I've been there and done that and KNOW
those gloves are hard to work with. Instead make the holes slightly larger than your forearm, and get some extra long yellow latex dishwashing
gloves and you are not sweating over your box dealing with
all the hardships that go along with attached gloves.
It can be MUCH easier to work in your box than it is...Often,
for me with mine, it's an hour or two of prep and then another hour or two of work in and around it. Might as well make it a luxury model ;0)
Just some advice to a new friend!
|Posted by: Nanook Nov 08 02, 12:33 AM GMT|
| I have to agree with member Freak here. Two power supply fans provides enough air to dispense with the gloves, which are as much work to use as to rig up. It's an exceptional box, certain to be clean... But you can be clean, and comfy too
Glovebox work is just that, and anything to relieve the stress makes for better results in the long run
|Posted by: OneDiaDem Nov 08 02, 12:39 AM GMT|
|Yeah, at the same time, go with whatever works for ya. Mine is an abomination of gloves, and hot glue, basically, high tek duct tape. lol.|
|Posted by: Freakalickilish Nov 08 02, 01:04 AM GMT|
| " is an abomination "
Wish i could have mine like that!
Sooooo vain about my box.
Sooooo Many versions.
Settled for something that looks like it
came out of a lab at nasa, complete with
three fans an interior florescent light
and multiple inner swithes that light
up when they are on..
The armholes in the front are covered,,,
Well, one day soon mebbe I can develop
some pix... I'm crazy vain about having
the neatest shit for this hobby and prolly
take it wwwwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy to seriously..
But my prototype incubators, fruiting chambers
and gloveboxes just keep getting better.
Dammit fungus,. Now you have me wanting
to show off my toys!
( LOL! edited to properly spell " prototype "
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 08 02, 01:07 AM GMT|
| The gloves arent that bad, Id rather have those than to go w/out. I feel better about the sterility of my work w/a sealed box. I just dont know if it is good enough to do the job, I have only used it a few times.
""I'm crazy vain about having
the neatest shit for this hobby and prolly
take it wwwwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy to seriously
|Posted by: Freakalickilish Nov 08 02, 01:52 AM GMT|
| ok, don't take anything by that last post,,
i am just stoneded and and want us ALL to have
the neatest crap bro...
Thats why we jive, we got something CRAZY in common..
|Posted by: DirtyWOP Nov 08 02, 08:52 AM GMT|
| thx for sharing!
why the damprid in the filter?
I used to have a glovebox just like that, but it pissed me off. I would have to get in this akward position, and struggle getting in and out of the gloves, and then have to still be able to see inside, and I'm all sweating and bent sideways, so I'm making all these sketchy movements.........scary
I found that my bathroom is small enough and easy enough to clean that it's just like a little walk-in glovebox itself....I get less contams in the bathroom than I did in my old glovebox....
watch out using too much tape, I assume that contams could really build up on something sticky
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 08 02, 11:57 AM GMT|
| No damp rid in the filter, just polyfil and coffee filter. Its a damprid container.
Contams dont stand a chance against duct tape and lysol
gonna use my glovebox today, draw up some syringes of Zstrain karo and shoot some Bseed. Got up almost 100 jars filled and sterilized waitin for some juice
|Posted by: DirtyWOP Nov 08 02, 12:07 PM GMT|
| DAMN FUNGO!
o wait....your the elbow dude, right?
100 jars of contamed birdheed can be hell
|Posted by: Eyebooger Nov 08 02, 12:13 PM GMT|
I want 100 jars of sterilized birdseed
That must have taking forever!
|Posted by: Toad Nov 08 02, 08:39 PM GMT|
| Neat box, try it with the gloves for a while and practice sterile technique. You'll ditch the gloves after a while. After you get experience you can decide.
I use surgical gloves sprayed with bleach water & drape clean paper towels over the arm holes till I insert My hands.
I also use my glove box inside my 4 x 8' clean room constructed out of plastic sheeting.
Overkill maybe, Anal definately!!
I never really learned anything till I screwed up a couple times.
|Posted by: Freakalickilish Nov 11 02, 06:47 AM GMT|
|a 4x8 sheeted in clean room, I AM jealous!|
|Posted by: Derby Nov 11 02, 10:14 PM GMT|
| That looks like a computer fan, Question: How do you power it?
I've been toying with the idea of using a computer fan to do automated air exchange but I guess I'd need a power supply to do the AC to DC conversion to power the thing.
|Posted by: Freakalickilish Nov 12 02, 06:35 AM GMT|
| motorcycle battery, 12 volt battery charger, you know for a car.
ANY 12 volt battery, uhm, cpu power supplies...
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 12 02, 08:46 AM GMT|
|Use the plug for a portable cd player. I had an abundance of them so they were used for a # of fans.|
|Posted by: Malformed Nov 12 02, 09:05 AM GMT|
| hell, i plug em right into the wall.
no adapter at all.
you could probably put 2 or 3 per plug, but i havnt tried.
(edit: ok, i should make it clear i was just kidding)
|Posted by: Nanook Nov 12 02, 10:21 AM GMT|
|LOL, you are not going to get away with plugging a 12vDC fan right into the wall|
|Posted by: Malformed Nov 12 02, 10:28 AM GMT|
| sure. all the fans i use are working fine!
some go a little faster than they are suposed to. but its all good.
no, seriously. i only use fans that i know can take it.
the fans i use came from radio shack, they are cooling fans, but they are 120v AC.
i dont just take a fan and hook it up without looking at the fan itself and reading the info on it.
usuly its written on the fan iself what it can handle.
i also have a few cpmputer power suplys just laying around if i need to use them.
|Posted by: scotsman1 Nov 12 02, 01:21 PM GMT|
| not as good as yours my friend
|Posted by: Sombra Nov 12 02, 03:37 PM GMT|
|hey man that is my motto!|
|Posted by: Sombra Nov 12 02, 03:44 PM GMT|
hey man that is my motto!
Nice box! Looks very good.
My first attempt at a glove box was a disaster. I ended up causing a small explosion. So I designed a hepa box instead and am pretty happy with the results.
Now saving up for a real flowhood!
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Nov 13 02, 03:13 PM GMT|
That looks like my first attempt to construct a glovebox!
I never used it though, Im a perfectionist and Im never satisfied.
Not even this box, I just added a hepa filter unit to mine to assist in the process. Your box is fine as long as it does what its supposed to. In fact your box was one of the first ones I ever saw, it was at mycotopia right?
This was part of my inspiration to construct one myself.
|Posted by: Molester Nov 13 02, 05:04 PM GMT|
|So I guess the idea is to rig up a fan to blow the air OUT right? What's the whole idea behind the fan? I have a little computer fan somewhere and a box full of huge army radio batteries, 12V|
|Posted by: Justin Nov 13 02, 05:28 PM GMT|
| Blow the air in, witha dust mask over it. Postive pressure dude, positive preashure.
One more fan of positive preashure!
|Posted by: Justin Nov 13 02, 05:29 PM GMT|
| three more posts till 50.. well i guess this post itself will make it only 2 more..
|Posted by: scotsman Nov 14 02, 11:47 AM GMT|
| i started with the cardboard glovebox then graduated to this
its fact , if you want to be independent from spore suppliers you need a box , but more inportantly you need to learn to use it
glasses and paper for printing , in the oven for 1 hr
everything has got to be spot on or your work is a waste of time
if you think u may have got something wrong stop and start again
|Posted by: scotsman Nov 14 02, 11:58 AM GMT|
| i dug this out from my attic
it shows you dont need to go buying anything with your first glovebox
|Posted by: scotsman Nov 14 02, 12:00 PM GMT|
| on the back we tape on a tea towel
|Posted by: Nanook Nov 14 02, 12:08 PM GMT|
Do you sterilize the towel Scots? I used to use plastic sheet sprayed with lysol to cover the back of my box. Had one pretty much like that except I had no bags, just armholes, and wore cheap rubber gloves.
BTW Scots, glad to have you with us, the place would not be the same without you
|Posted by: scotsman Nov 14 02, 01:13 PM GMT|
| when i used it i sprayed the towel with a bleach and water mix
the only drawback with the cardboard is
the more you use it and spray the inside
the more the cardboard loses it shape
i get a buzz outa making my own prints and posting them on and recieving them from all over the world
|Posted by: Molester Nov 14 02, 02:36 PM GMT|
| >Blow the air in, witha dust mask over it. Postive pressure dude, positive >preashure.
So yeah, I got it, I meant blow air OUT of the arm holes. Really, I swear!
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Dec 08 02, 09:48 AM GMT|
You guys were right about losing the gloves...
I took them off this morning while I was cleaning the box...
Now you guys are sure it'll be ok without them right??
Ive got a hepa I'm going to put next to it while I work, I'm still kinda nervous about the no gloves, glove box...
Someone please reassure me...
|Posted by: DirtyWOP Dec 08 02, 09:53 AM GMT|
|If you can feel the air pushing out of the armholes, even after your arms are in, you should be good with no gloves......|
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Dec 08 02, 10:36 AM GMT|
|Maybe I can rig my hepa output to the box, that would be more than enough!! Too much, maybe??|
|Posted by: DirtyWOP Dec 08 02, 11:35 AM GMT|
| yea that would be cool
go to the forest floor
there is a post there
someone did exactly that......
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Dec 08 02, 11:45 AM GMT|
| Oh shit I got it!!
Lemme see the FF before I finish my remodeling job, this is gonna be good!
|Posted by: Fungusmaximus Dec 08 02, 12:24 PM GMT|
| Hey WOp,
Where at the FF??
|Posted by: DirtyWOP Dec 08 02, 11:26 PM GMT|
| I dunno
I think thats where I saw it.......
it was made out of a holmes home unit thing
|Posted by: shakeyjake Jun 21 03, 09:54 PM GMT|
| Heres the positive pressure glovebox.
|Posted by: shakeyjake Jun 21 03, 10:03 PM GMT|
A close up of the fan unit ^^^
|Posted by: Molester Feb 01 03, 03:25 AM GMT|
| Here is my old glovebox before I recycled it...
|Posted by: Molester Feb 01 03, 03:31 AM GMT|
| And here is my new, improved one.
Here are my reasons for conversion:
1. Sick of cleaning glovebox. Each bag I use is perfectly sterile out of the package, and can be disposed of after use.
2. A glovebox is so conspicuous, and takes up so much room.
3. So much cheaper to make!
4. Complete 3D visibility.
All you do is take a clear bag (in my case, clear blue recycle bags, I'm sure you can find bigger bags if ya need) and elastic it around the output of your HEPA, run it on high speed and cut a couple of slits in the bag.
|Posted by: Molester Feb 01 03, 03:33 AM GMT|
| In case you're still wondering what this contraption is for...
|Posted by: Fearless1 Jan 13 03, 07:04 AM GMT|
| I built this 1 in about 2 hours with stuff I had here in my garage it is crude but since I built it I have not lost 1 jar due to contams at inoculation.
|Posted by: ShroomVator Mar 05 03, 11:56 PM GMT|
| Looks cool...what I did for a basic glovebox:
Took a 48 Quart Sterilite Clear Bin From KMart - $4.00
and Two 'heavy plastic' snap-on Tupperware containers (big enough for an arm) - $2 or $3 each
Use a Butane torch to soften the plastic to make big enough holes on one side of the terrarium and cut out circles with a box-cutter.
Use the same torch to cut the bottom out of those tupperware containers.
Fit the containers in the holes, with the plastic snap-on top on the outside ( obviously)
Use ample Liquid Nails to glue the things in and Silicon II to waterproof.
There you go - toss on gloves, open the tupperware bowls and you have a nice still-air environment - a little peroxide/alcohol clean and if you work fast, you'll have a pretty-much perfectly sterile environment.
Sorry for no pic - too lazy to draw diagram - EatU has a similar design posted somewhere.
Seen on Ebay... $15,000.00 reserve ^^^^
|Posted by: FrierTuck Jul 24 03, 02:39 PM GMT|
so i got the plastic thing behind a 7-11, the glass top from a broken coffee table, the filter is several coffee filters stacked together, and 1 hole is larger than the other with a alum foil curtain hanging, so big items go in easily, flap comes down, pressure stays up...
|Posted by: Molester Jul 24 03, 02:56 PM GMT|
|That is soooo ghetto its awesome! Should do the trick, let us know how it goes. What's keepin the pressure up though|
|Posted by: FrierTuck Jul 24 03, 04:04 PM GMT|
|that little black fan in the left side of the pic. since the pic i have added a better air-tight seal on top with saran wrap, tape and styrofoam. I'll need to buy a more powerful fan, but this will do until payday!|
|Posted by: FrierTuck Jul 24 03, 04:06 PM GMT|
| that little black fan in the left side of the pic keeps the pressure up. it is pulled away from filter so you can see the filter placement.
since the pic i have added a better air-tight seal on top with saran wrap, tape and styrofoam. I'll need to buy a more powerful fan, but this will do until payday!
home-made spore prints! just like mama used to make!
|Posted by: Zoom Jul 24 03, 10:15 PM GMT|
That'll work Friartuck...Foaf used carboard boxes with inside
covered in aluminum foil when he first started out. He had
good success with it too!
|Posted by: Nanook Jul 24 03, 10:18 PM GMT|
| Luv it
Who cares what it looks like on the outside as long as it's clean inside
If you are using a partial pressure box with too small a fan... Set it up in a clean room and go very slowly when moving your arms in and out of the box to prevent dragging contams in and mixing air. Go slow in a clean room you will be fine