Nan's Nook : Archives : Botanicals : Cactus : Peyote
|By Cbee (Cbee) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 07:34 am:|
Does anyone have any info on growing this and obtaining seeds/clones? im very interested in it as I think it would be fun to grow... nan i think i saw a post somewhere where you were talking about it, could u point me in the right direction to start out? where can I get seeds?
|By Neil Cooper (Phake_Ld) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 08:51 am:|
dude, it takes years to grow peyote. Unfortunately i cant remember where I saw a web site that sold peyote seeds
|By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 02:53 pm:|
|By Nan (Nanook) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 04:58 pm:|
There is a page of links in this thread near the bottom with seed sources. Peyote seeds are illegal I am told, purchase at your own risk.
|By Cbee (Cbee) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 05:44 pm:|
hmm thats no good =) ya i knew they took a long time to grow, was just interested in them, thanks for the info
|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 07:08 am:|
San Pedro seeds are legal, correct? How does San Pedro compare to Peyote in terms of growing and potency? Is it in ones interest to try to get Peyote over San Pedro?
|By gnas (Psystep) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 07:18 am:|
I've read that among the various species of San Pedro, extremely few species come close to peyote's potency but none ever equals it. Peyote in average seems to be much more potent, and compared to some available SP, even ridiculously so.
|By Nan (Nanook) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 08:14 am:|
San Pedro (Tricocereus pachanoi or Trichocereus pachanoi) are legal... Seeds and viable plants. It is easy to obtain, easy to cultivate, and the high is second only to Peyote (Lophophora williamsii) which is illegal, seeds and plants, in the US. Legal in Canada
|By Stewie (Stew) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 04:18 pm:|
what about Trichocerus peruvianus? I've seen this for sale on the internet. $29 for 35 grams of dried green tissue. would this be enough for a dose?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 07:54 pm:|
Peruvianus falls into the same pile as pachanoi... I don't think an ounce dried would do more than tickle my fancy... Double that.
It's cheaper to grow your own, and you can get a lot of bang for your buck if you avoid ethnobotanical dealers... Buy cuttings and rooted plants from a legit cactus dealer for the best quality and prices. Get some extra stalkage to dose with, and enough to plant and grow for the future.
|By Brad (Raze) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 11:26 pm:|
I heard peyote was legal here in Canada, is that true?
|By An guy (Boomer) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 11:51 pm:|
I been wondering, how do you say that, anyways?
|By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 12:17 am:|
yep peyote is legal in canada.
|By Cbee (Cbee) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 12:25 am:|
really? thats interesting.. where can you purchase it in canada, is there a vendor? be cool if you could grab some from internet here in canada. Also how long does the san pedros take to grow? think if i search the web for growing pedros and peyote that id get quite abit of info?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 01:55 am:|
Cbee many of your questions are answered in the Archived Cactus Threads
Vendor Information here There is one long page of nothing but related links. Read Up
|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 04:19 am:|
On that Peyote site that is linked, under the ordering Peyote, it says peyote takes 20 to 30 years before it is ready for consumption. How can this be? I thought it took around 3 years.
|By Nan (Nanook) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 04:41 am:|
A decent sized and healthy Pedro plant will produce a harvest after 3-4 years.
Peyote is slow. Many years from seed to consumption... But you can graft Peyote to Pedro and speed the growth up. One year from a graft the size of a thumbnail to a button of consumable size.
|By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 06:52 am:|
ya i wonder what the germination would take on peyote/st pedro from seeds. nook you ever see that pic i posted of all thoes cacti's on overgrow.com i saw someone who had i think st pedro growing hydroponicly, is it possiable or was i just seeing things?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 07:00 am:|
It is very possible to grow
Pedro hydroponically. Dirt is cheaper (because cactus is a slow crop as opposed to say weed). A good potting mix is stable for years and years with just occasional pH adjustments, and soil handles dormancy without a hitch.
If you grow under light and cut your dormancy down to the 6 week minimum... You can boost your production...
I find it is easier to grow outside in the summer, winter them in my kitchen, and run a larger number of pots to get the yeilds... It's cheaper and easier.
|By ShrooMaster (Shroomaster) on Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 03:50 am:|
For those looking to find out how to graft a cactus, transplant, grow from seed ect ect ge a cactus book from the library.
I've gotten several which name peyote in the Latin form lophophora williamsii. there are all kinda tricks in
these books. one I didn't know about was misting cacti when they are dormant.
You can get peyote seeds in america
through various online outlets. You can also order them from Holland and have them
accidentally label it something else. Peyote seeds aren't recognized on contact like pot seeds so
I don't see a problem.
There are several different kinds of lophophora cacti for the record.
San pedro grows quicker than peruvian torch but I've been told that the torchs are noticeably better. if your going to buy a stalk id pay a lil more and go for that. Theres a cactus syrup making thread around here somewhere.