See: The SS (Soda Straw) Tek
|By Isaac Lipnick (Isaac) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 07:58 am: The Nook|
Well, I'm happy to say (I'm a newbie) that a few of my 1/2 pint brf/verm with PF spore race are 100% colonized and I'm in the process of trying to start pinning. I have been reading about different methods of delivering water to the cakes- e.g. double casing, spraying, cool mist humidifiers, etc. I'm going to put some wet verm on the lid before I birth and have a 20 gal. dual chambered terrerium set up which I'll mist and and air (standard PF style). But something that I've recently found is the "straw tek" where you drill a hole in the cake immediately after birthing and put a drinking straw in it, which can be injected with sterile water to resuply cake with water. Anyways, sorry about all the rambling I just LOVE my new hobby, and nobody knows about it- secret mission! Anyways, I'll cut future posts down. Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with this- I would love all opinions. Thanks for your time.
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 09:57 am: The Nook|
Think it's a 5/32 drill bit, ain't shore, but go ahead and drill your cakes. Just fit the cut- in-half clear straws snug. A syringe is the easy way to fill them, doing good, daily. Lettin' 'em flush on their own the first time, expect 'bout half that yield second go 'round
|By plinkerdink420 (Plinkerdink420) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 02:10 pm: The Nook|
watch out for those contams though.... it seems that you have had much trouble with those in the past... those IRT's could make your cakes more susceptible to contamination, but not sure really, as have never really messed with it much myself... heard reports of it causing contamination though
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 04:42 pm: The Nook|
Not really plink...
|By Dr. Cubensis (Shroomzilla) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 05:07 pm: The Nook|
Drilling holes in cakes is wrong... Can't you hear them screaming????
" Please! Please! I am but a humble cubensis producer, please don't hurt me..."
You guys have no heart
|By quote: (Quote) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 05:24 pm: The Nook|
from what i can tell, there are a few improvements one can make on the straw or reservoir methods.
both have drawbacks, 'as-is'.
the straw is not really needed as you really don't want water in the hole constantly. it's better to let it miss a day here and there to dry out, that helps keep the contams down.
also, the straw itself prevents water from being absorbed anywhere but at the tip, while an plain hole can provide water along its' entire area.
that allows more water to be absorbed faster, providing less time for contams to breed in the water/food interface.
as for filling the hole with vermiculite instead,
that too is much more contam prone, as pf recently mentioned in a post here. very wet vermiculite is easily invaded by cobweb and trich.
plus, the verm. cannot hold any more water than an empty hole can, less in fact.
so overall, my experiments tend to show that if you want to go this way to re-hydrate,
you should just leave out the straws and the vermiculite, and simply drill 2-3 holes about an inch deep and 3/8 inch diameter,
then fill them with water every few days, as needed to rehydrate.
|By Kman (Kman) on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 01:54 am: The Nook|
quote what about using perlite instead of vermiculite? I have seen this done with success, how do you think that compares contam wise?
|By Isaac Lipnick (Isaac) on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 02:29 am: The Nook|
Aren't you worried about toxins with perlite. I'm reluctant to use any because a)very sloppy and contam prone(so I've heard- still a newbie) and I also b) isn't it not good to breathe in? Thanks for all your suggestions, sounds like I'll stick to the dunking tek. Good luck to all.
|By An guy (Boomer) on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 04:03 am: The Nook|
perlite is still going to cut down the volume of water you can put into the hole- anything in that hole besides water means less water in the hole.
the 'hole' purpose of that hole is to add water to the cake, right? so just a plain ol hole is going to hold the most water, and having nothing in that hole means that the mycelia has the maximum exposure to the water, which means the most efficient absorbtion.
most efficient absorbtion in turn means the water is sitting around for way less time, which means it has less time to attract contams, which means a greater chance of a nice clean, well-hydrated cake.
which means a much better harvest, on average.
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 09:26 am: The Nook|
It ain't perfect, but if ya ain't gonna go nothin' else, it helps quite a bit, I found. But, depended on the individual cake's mood. Some wanted ta grow and would suck to straw dry, some didn't, wouldn't..
I'm sure the 3/8" holes are a go quo! Simpler even, gotta luv that. As for contams, seems to me the best defense has been good offence-just keep 'em fuzzy..
Still in pain Dr. C?