95F drying temperature

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By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 01:22 am:

I've read that the temp to stay below when drying shrooms is 110F. Has anyone ever actually used a temp around 95F, and tested the result?

By Snoopy (Snoopy) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 02:02 am:

Mr. Tambourine
Funny you should mention 95F I asked the same question about that temp awhile back because I bought a food dehydrator that its lowest setting is 95F and I didn't want to disable the heat source. I really haven't noticed a difference in the potency of the mushrooms at 95F.
I would however recommend that you are positive of the 95F. I put an electric temp guage in my dehydrator to make sure its at 95F and not at like 100F.. and by golly it was spot on.

By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 02:05 am:

Nice! I thought I remembered something like that! So, you've tested the shrooms and you don't notice a difference? And (VERY IMPORTANT) what was the brand and model of the dehydrator?

By Snoopy (Snoopy) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 04:30 am:

it is a Nesco by American Harvest. It doesn't have a model number or anything. I purchased it at walmart for 40 bux. It has 4 nice stackable trays and the box says it uses 500 watts. *ouch* but I assume that is when you crank up the heat.

By Snoopy (Snoopy) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 04:39 am:

Ahhhhh hahaha. I remember someone posting some good photos about wire snipping. So I checked Nans wonderfully organized archives and I see that YOU posted those pics Tambourine Man. And guess what. We have exactly the same food dehydrator!

By ion ewe (Ion) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 04:44 am:

Psilocin can degrade at anything over -5 C.
Psilocybin can live at room temps.
Cold dry... or Warm dry... you make the call.


By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 05:28 am:

HAHAHHA, wow! Yeah, I'd like it to dry faster, but I'm wondering if that 95F is too high for the psylocybin. So, you tried shrooms dried at 95F and you think they're just as powerful?

By Dr. Cubensis (Shroomzilla) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 05:33 pm:


Quote prolly finds this redunant, but from his posts and his testing he found that the shrooms potency was degraded somewhat, then, my memory my be somewhat degraded from all the shrooms...

It's worth the extra trouble to me and my buddy who grows, to fan dry for several days, then toss to the dessicant chamber untill He remembers they are there.....

Can't make the claim of the most potent cubensis in town if you are robbing them thru heat!!!


By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 06:05 pm:

Quote, is this true?

By ggg (Ggg) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 10:04 pm:

Thats the same wally world model of dehydrator that my buddy has. It's quiet and has like 4 trays.
It holds a crapload of shrooms.
Like +\- 1/4lb. dry at once.

Look, loose the heat-
Just drop the screws from the underside of the lid and unplug the heating element. Put tape around the wire you pulled, screw it back and slam some shrooms in that pup.
My friends shrooms are dry in three days with NO HEAT! 2 days in dehydrator, one day in dessicant box. Cracker dry and ready to fly! Snap, crackle, fry!

By Nan (Nanook) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 10:52 pm:

Cool drying. The cooler the better. Freeze drying would be best. I never heat dry, never dry warmer than room temp. Some people do, I don't think it's the best way, but I am not going to argue about it. Most people are so sensitive to shrooms that they can't tell a difference.

I can.

By quote: (Quote) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 11:12 pm:

i'm sure the real truth of the matter is that the rate at which the magic decays is directly proportional to the heat it's exposed to.
i.e., the hotter or the longer it's exposed to any given temp, the more magic lost.
at 95, it might take a few weeks for all potency to be lost, so a few hours on a dehydrator aren't too significant. but i could tell a little difference, personally.
note that this gradual decay of potency occurs even at lower room temps as well.
so for really long term storage, a freezer is optimal.

By plinkerdink420 (Plinkerdink420) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 11:33 pm:

"Cracker dry and ready to fly! Snap, crackle, fry!"

now that's poetry

Note:  It's not just the heat. It's a combination of heat plus lots of oxygen exchanges. If you leave shrooms in warm/hot moving air the magic degrades even faster than if the shrooms are sitting at the same temp sealed in a low oxygen environment. But I tested this as fact: take fresh shrooms and place them in a 95*F dehydrator for 72 hours and the shrooms have virtually no potency left in them at all. It ruins them, they were a little more potent than sawdust. Properly dried shrooms in a sealed vacuum bag placed in the dehydrator at the same temp, but still sealed and not exposed to moving air, were very noticeably degraded... But you could still get off, I would say potency was only reduced by 30-40%. Sunlight increases the rate of decay even faster.

Even a few hours in a food dehydrator at 95*F is going to oxidize some of the goodies because it combines your two worst enemies: heat and oxygen.


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