Legality issue

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By Spunion_Elf (Spunion_Elf) on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 01:02 pm:

So, I've been reviewing the various drug laws from state to state (looking for a more tolerant place to relocate) and I noticed that many (mine included) mention "any drug precursors" and proscribe penalties as harsh as those for the actual drugs. My question is this: Can Spores be considered "precurors" to magic shrooms? Not too worried, mine are in the mail (or will be soon) and prints are fairly easy to hide so's noone can find them, even in a car, but still very curious to know just how cautious I should be during those times when I don't have anything going.

By Veteran Cosmic Rocker (Silverpen) on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 01:27 pm:

My impression is that neither spores or mycelium is illegal (except in Calif., i think). There is no legality issue until they become shrooms...again, i think. That's pretty much what i've gathered from my assessment of the matter

By Maliki vision seaker (Maliki) on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 04:32 pm:

Since its law we speak of its translated very literaly. Spores should NOT be considerd a precursor. No wait i just went and looked it up in webster. Precursor= One that preceds and indicates or announces another. So in a court of law by definition spores count as precursor . This here is a gray area isnt it , if this went to court I have no clue witch way it would go . Id say find a GOOD LAWYER . That is a hard one to call thoguh. But in the good ol USA they can change and warp damn near anylaw they want to fit the particular needs they have. Happens everyday here unfortanetly.

By quote: (Quote) on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 11:40 pm:

i think precursor in this case refers to chemicals which are the key components in various drug manufacturing processes, such as ephedrine.
i don't believe it applies to spores or seeds.

By Merlin of Camelot (Merlin) on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 11:49 pm:

I'm thinking that spores or seeds for that matter could be construed as precursors. Those laws are generally inacted for meth lab purposes, though.
I've also always been of the opinion that a person might be in some trouble if the authorities were to find jars, verm, brown rice, spores and an aquarium in the same place even if they had not as yet been combined.

By quote: (Quote) on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 11:54 pm:

the word precursor is used in a very strict legal sense, not it's common dictionary meaning.
unless a lawyer told me otherwise, i don't believe it applies to spores or seeds.
as for catching one with all that, it would make 'intent' to cultivate pretty clear, precursor or not.

By Merlin of Camelot (Merlin) on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 12:00 am:

I agree, never saw a case of someone being charged that way for seeds or spores. Most states define "precursor" in the law that pertains to them. Usually only references certain chemicals. Seeds are charged in this state the same as mj would be. Spores are legal. Intent? Well, that's anyones guess.

By Mjshroomer (Mjshroomer) on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 06:31 pm:

ALthough marijana seeds are illegal to possess by law, Poppy seeds for growing opium are not illegal nor are spores, unless you live in California or in Georgia where spores are s[pecified as illegal by legislature.


By Spunion_Elf (Spunion_Elf) on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 - 07:30 am:

Opium poppy seeds are legal? Are all poppy plants the same as far as opium is concerned, or are the decorative varieties free of opium? if there is a difference, where can I get some seeds for opium poppies?