|By Kman (Kman) on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 05:51 pm:|
Can someone please post a pic of what a fully colonized jar of rye should look like? I have several that are very near to 100% I just want to be sure I'm not using them too soon.
|By plinkerdink420 (Plinkerdink420) on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 05:57 pm:|
i stole this from another thread, but i believe that this a 100% colonized chunk o' rye
|By Dr. Cubesis III (Newbieshroomer) on Monday, January 07, 2002 - 07:04 pm:|
Hey, if your rye is pretty damn white WHEN SHAKEN UP, you are ready to go. Remember, rye tends to colonize INSIDE the grain as well, so you can't see all of the colonization with your eyes....
when it looks like all the grains are mostly furry and touched white, cut those jars loose!!!!
|By Kman (Kman) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 12:34 am:|
cool thanx guys, I ma happy to report that I now hve 3 happy flat cakes that are just starting to have mycelium poking through. Don't worry I patched them, but everything is going as planned.
by the way for anyone that is interested my jars of rye went from inoculation to full colonization in 9 days! not bad considering I shot them with spores too.
|By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 01:30 am:|
Is that the advantage of rye over something like BRF? The colonization time?
|By Kman (Kman) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 04:52 am:|
I am no expert, but as far as I can tell that is the main benefit. You inoculate your rye, wait a few days and shake it up to spread the mycelium, let it recover and grow over again and shake it one more time(some shake more, some shake more). Then you can either spawn straw or something of that nature or do what I'm doing and casing it with straight verm. Anybody have any tips on this? let me know
|By Dr. Cubesis III (Newbieshroomer) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 06:47 pm:|
Colonization time is good... But rye contams EASILY..... Rye can be used for virtually anything. My buddy is going to make cakes out of it and grow it invitro.
|By Kman (Kman) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 07:13 pm:|
I have heard that contams are aa problem but I have not had such problems and I am by no means as sterile as I could be. It could be that I soaked for 24hrs then boiled the rye before sterilization? I think it helped.
queston: Does rye have a problem with colonization after its birthed too?
|By Mrt (Mrt) on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 02:22 am:|
No. Fan casings 3-5 days and you'll be fine. If you don't fan it out very often the air inside you terrarium becomes stagnant and contams will show up. Fan adequately and you'll be rewarded with an impressive crop. Kman- if you are boiling your grains you can skip the soaking. Growing on rye is actually very simple if you do it properly. Use polyfill lids, steep your grain, and use liquid a inocculant. I also use my oven as a flowhood and have had a zero percent contam rate since I have inocorporated these items/procedures. B+ is my fav on rye but I've also grow treasure coasts and talpalpas. What strain are you using Kman?
|By Kman (Kman) on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 02:06 am:|
I got some EQ's and Plantasia going on the rye right now, and they are doing well. I cased em in a flat cake using verm. The Eq's seemd to be stalled so I scratched the top layer a little and they are getting new growth. I think I should have jsut waited them out though.
MRT how do you like the treasure coast? I'm getting a print real soon.
|By Fishy1 (Fishy1) on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 02:27 am:|
Kman, email me. [email protected] Leave off the 666.
I found your lost dog.fishy1
|By Fishy1 (Fishy1) on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 02:38 am:|
....and on rye...it is a love hate relationship. I do not like it at all when using a spore syringe. Just not fast enough. I like blended up PF cake powder for the inoculation of rye.
With a blenderized "flesh" clone, or dextrose mycelia, 90% work for me. Polyfill or HEPA vaccuum bag filters on the lids seem to REALLY help.
Agar to grain is GREAT. 100% success at this point. Grain to grain transfers are good too.
I have heard of success when mixing cooked rye w/ rice flour and then PCing, but have not tried that.
But WTF do I know?!fishy1
|By relic (Relic) on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 11:10 pm:|
gosh, it's at least as fast as brf 1/2 pints w/ spore solution. grain to grain transfers be real quick, as are karo shots.