Pine Nuts in Substrate

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By Fishy1 (Fishy1) on Tuesday, January 01, 2002 - 06:48 pm:

Has anyone tried pine nuts in their substrate? I have heard ion mention it, and BIO posted pix of a colonized pinecone on the Shroomery....but I cant seem to find any real info on it. Maybe a tablespoon of ground nuts in a cake?
Would soy flour do the same thing?
Thanx for any help-----fishy1

By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Tuesday, January 01, 2002 - 09:39 pm:

Are the edible pine-nuts actually from pine-cones?

I never thought so... but then, again, I never looked into it.

By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Tuesday, January 01, 2002 - 09:57 pm:

the pine nuts that come in oil?

By Fishy1 (Fishy1) on Tuesday, January 01, 2002 - 10:35 pm:

NOT the ones packed in oil!
Pinenuts come from the pinecone. There is a great pic over at the Shroomery of a whole cone colonized w/ mycelia....pretty cool.
I was just wondering what results could be expected....I assume they are full of protein and such...will have to do a search for any info on that....fishy1

By Fishy1 (Fishy1) on Tuesday, January 01, 2002 - 10:40 pm:

this was written by ion on growing Azures: Hint: Try dried, ground pine nuts in place of some of the BRF. Not too much, as the nuts are coparatively acidic (due to high nitrogen, I assume). They have tons of protein, and are more similar to the natural food of a caramel cap. You can make a tea of their nutrients to impregnate the cardboard and/or woodchips, too! Ahhh, the possibilities...

By ion ewe (Ion) on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 02:14 am:

They will work well for those types of fungus that do not mind a more acidic environment. If one wishes, he can counteract the acidity with a small amount of gypsum for the more basic loving species. The protein in a teaspoon of pine nut is around 7-10 mg. The levels of nitrogen are quite high and will generally yeild a more robust sporocarp.
Yes, soy is very similar in these aspects. Use dried "organic" soybeans and grind them yourself. The amount of soy can be slightly higher than the pine nuts, I assume. I don't like soy very much for eating, so I wouldn't feed it to fungus if I were growing them. Just my opinion.
You could experiment by substituting two jars of your next batch entirely for the BRF. All pine in one and all soy in the other. See what happens...
Although I must say that both of these products are considerably more expensive than brown rice.


By Fishy1 (Fishy1) on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 02:28 am:

Thanx buddy. I will try it. They are pricey, but not a big deal. I will post the results when the time is right.

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