|Please critique my terrarium idea||22||10/27 05:12pm||Claw|
|Terranium height?||6||12/04 06:02am||John Brent|
|By ben fidalgo (Benofnazareth) on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 02:44 pm:|
Whats up guys and girls. I'm in the process of growing some nice cubies using basically the PF tek. Its almost time for the birthday, and alas, I have waited last minute to build a terrarium. I was wondering if a semi-transparent (white, cloudy, but transparent rubbermaid container would be allow a sufficient amount of light for the shrooms. That is, assuming the lid for the container is either not transparent, or made of the same transparent material as the rest of the container. Any thoughts? Thanks!
|By Lichen (Lichen) on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 03:12 pm:|
yep, diffused light through opaque rubbermaid will do fine :0)
|By benofnazareth (Benofnazareth) on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 03:16 pm:|
Radical. Thanks Lichen. This saves me much effort! One more question (maybe you'll answer this one just as fast!), should I keep light on it 24/7?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 03:22 pm:|
Anywhere over 30 minutes is enough. I like to let them have natural light by fruiting in a room with a window.
|By benofnazareth (Benofnazareth) on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 03:35 pm:|
Sorry Nan, you mean only 30 minutes a day is required? If so, that rocks. So if I wanted to I could stuff the terrarium in a closet, and make sure a shine a light on the boys once a day for a half hour or more?
|By Lichen (Lichen) on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 04:54 pm:|
that's it, although indirect light on a natural basis is probably ideal, since it's how God makes em grow
|By AdNauseum (Mystrysabsynth) on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 06:57 am:|
O.K...this may be a dumb question, but here goes:
I have a 20 gal. rubbermaid tote to be used with some casings.It has an approx. 8x11" hole cut in the top and is covered in a sheet of plexiglass.
Can I use a 15watt(i think)blue aquarium bulb as a light source from a clip on desk lamp to initiate pinning/fruiting or neither? I also have a 50/60 HZ air pump(bottom filter covered w/ piece of Hepa filter) that I rigged with some aquarium airline and one of those oxygen tube things they put in your nose at the hospital. I just attatched regular tubing to each nose plug and used a thin piece of duct tape to make it an airtight connection. Then cut the end piece off the hopital line and connected the whole thing to the pump, hence giving me a double line outta 1 pump. I ran extra tubing around to each end of tub where there were holes to thread it up through. Made an airtight seal on both ends and left extra hanging inside to disperse fresh air. There is a hole about 2"x1" at Co2 level on each end also. Does this sound like 1)Will 1 pump be enough fresh air for exchange and 2) Will enough Co2 be eliminated?
Thanks for the patience
|By AdNauseum (Mystrysabsynth) on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 09:08 am:|
I want to do this tomorrow, anyone have any other suggestions?
|By relic (Relic) on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 10:05 am:|
i would guess that one pump would be enough fresh air to forgo multiple fannings but i would still fan them hard once a day to expell the stale air and co2.
the light should work fine.
|By AdNauseum (Mystrysabsynth) on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 06:53 pm:|
THANK YOU Relic!!
|By Claw (Claw) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 04:23 am:|
As a newbie I am of course overwhelmed by all the info. I think I've gotten to the point where I understand how to innoculate the sterilized jars, and what conditions the cakes need to fruit, but building the fruiting chamber seems to be the toughest part for me. Can anyone point me to a simple design? I'd like to not have to hand spray for humidity, but I will if that's what it takes.
I also hear a lot of talk about fishtank bubblers and heaters, but haven't been able to find that info in the PF Tek in the Archives. Could someone please explain this to me or post a link to that info?
I'm just looking for a good terrarium for a beginner...one that is not too fancy, but works well and is almost idiot proof Is this a tall order?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 04:56 am:|
I am going to have you read my post there in Archives->Grow Chambers & Clean Rooms.
Guys I could use some cheap Grow Chamber Teks that might cure the occasional misting... I saw a good "aquarium heater in the pickle jar" tek the other day... Somebody, please, throw us a link here.
|By Timothy Leary (Timothyleary) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 05:22 am:|
Well you can always check the Archives-Grow Chambers for info.
What i do is i use a standard aquarium (5.5 gal and up) for my terrariums. Easy to clean since it is glass, and don't cost too much.
For humidification, i will tell you to go with perlite. It is simple, cheap and effective.
I used a 5.5gal and 1 in of perlite moisted with water/h202 mix. Then sprayed with water/h202 mix every other time I fanned.
This is another method you could use that involves a Pickle Jar and Fish tank heater.
Hope that helps,
This was one of the many equadorian products:
|By Timothy Leary (Timothyleary) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 05:37 am:|
here is that pic, sorry
|By Winston Smith (Thedawg) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 05:24 am:|
I can't keep the humidity up in my terrerium. The humidity is holding at 80% no matter what method I try, whether it is using damp vermiculite or hand-spraying or both. Three of seven cakes developed good amounts of mushrooms, but the others have nothing. My cakes have obviously suffered because of the humidity factor, hopefully someone can come through with an easy solution before I lose the rest of them.
|By Nan (Nanook) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 12:08 pm:|
Winston: How do you know your humidity is at 80%? Don't be misled by one of these cheap humidity meters. If you did not pay at least $100 in determining your humidity, I don't trust your instrument. Perlite humidification plus misting produces the required humidity... Are you using Vermiculite humidification or Perlite? You are getting shrooms... Could your reading be inaccurate? DUNK if your cakes are blued and dried.
|By Delta25 (Delta25) on Thursday, October 11, 2001 - 09:31 am:|
So after going out to my local wall mart and picking up a 2 bags of perlite a fishpump air line air stones and a digital hygrometer as opesed to the shitty brass one i was useing . I decided to give the humidifier one last go with the new hygrometer witch i checked calabration before hand.
To my suprise the humidity in the terium went to 99%. Damn so confused i stuck in the old hygrometer it stuck on 70% as usal I tapped it on the side and it sprung up to 99%
SO after cracking the lid a tad i have the terarium at 95% humid and 75 F go figure.
Live and learn
|By Black Star (Mr_Bug) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 02:23 pm:|
I have two Rich Man's terrariums I would be willing to sell for $35 each.
|By Nan (Nanook) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 02:38 pm:|
Tim Leary: I got that link and the Tek is now in the Archive. Thanks to Marx2k for posting it!
Archive->Grow Chambers->Projects->Marx2k's Pickle Jar Heater Tek
Don't laugh. These work great for Incubating jars. You don't need the airpump when these are used in a jar incubator.
If the fish tank heater is not brand new spend some quality time and Clean it up
Put the finished pickle jar heater into the appropriate sized 'maid storage container, and you have a near perfect jar incubator. The smaller aquarium heaters (25 & 50 watt) are usually enough to keep an incubation chamber warm and humid as the weather chills. You can throw a blanket over the incubation chamber on cold nights. Remember to keep the Water topped up with this Tek. In dry air the pickle jar can run out of water quick, so check it frequently.
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 04:45 pm:|
Your local pet store should be able to get you a UTH if they don't have one...shoot for a Zoo Med #RH-5,medium 30/40 gal. They're for reptiles. Or just try surfin' for it... Zoo Med only sells to distributors.
|By Bobby (Bobby) on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 06:29 pm:|
Alright my 10 jars are fully covered with mycellium. I am going to wait a week or so for the pinning. I am using a plastic storage bin with the top cut and plexiglass covering it with a plant light(perlite method). It will be in my closet. My question is do I need to put some heat under the bin or will they be ok and grow with out it.Also what intervals should I run the lighting or does it matter???
|By Nan (Nanook) on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 06:59 pm:|
Here's a link to a thread with some info.
|By Brad (Raze) on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 08:44 pm:|
Fruiting temps are lower than incubation, so what ever your room temp is, is fine.
Where did you find plexiglass? I could use it on my terranium, plus I'd like to cut out a window on my new computer case (not paying 50 bux for a 12x14 slab of precut plexi glass again... blah)
|By Bobby (Bobby) on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 12:16 am:|
I found a piece at my local Car Stereo Shop. Just say some crap about you need it for school or church and they will give you a piece that they were throwing away.
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 07:06 am:|
OK, on the temp..I shoot for 75 degrees, a little higher than most homes, and a UTH is an easy way to do it. I suppose a heating pad would do the trick, but burn alot more juice. My UTH's run at 16 watts. Also, I put a florescent light bulb in the overhead socket for the same reason. And I'm sure heating the perlite a little helps alot w/the humidity production. As for the plexiglass, look in the yellow pages under "glass". I was able call around and compare prices. Ended up spending $40 on four pieces, 2 1/8in. thick and 6" by 18", two the next thickness down, and 11 and 1/16" by 18 and 1/2". The 6x18 pieces are epoxied to the side of a 10 gal. aquarium, and the other pieces fit perfectly resting on the lip and leaning to the lid for drip shields. Small suction cup hooks srve as handles. (I've built two of these..) Just cut templates outta cardboard and measure them for your terrarium, but if ya get the aquariums sold w/the sticker of a clown fish on 'em, you can just use mine..They are fine working units, I must say!
I haven't ever birthed cakes into a room temperature terrarium, does this still work OK guys?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 08:00 am:|
It does in the summer. As the weather cools they can use a little extra heat. BTW, your Tek is featured in the Archives under Grow Chambers & Clean Rooms... Third post down I believe. Thanks for the Tek.
|By Drew Man (Dman) on Friday, November 23, 2001 - 08:00 pm:|
Currently I have been seeking the best way to heat and humidify my 10 gallon fish tank terrarium. Does anyone have any recommendations on how I could get everything perfect?
|By SYDYSTYK (Addict) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 12:01 am:|
whatis the temp in your room?
|By Drew Man (Dman) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 07:11 am:|
Its between 65-70f
|By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 07:20 am:|
i would suggest perlite, i get a towel and empty a bag of perlite in it, soak down the towel and cover then i empty it all in the 'maid. i use a big beach towel in the shower. only way i can get it not to make a mess LOL!
|By greenthumb (Greenthumb) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 01:31 pm:|
|By quote: (Quote) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 02:31 pm:|
i just use a fish tank heater stuck in a 1 gallon milk jug full of water, placed inside the rubbermaid.
|By greenthumb (Greenthumb) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 04:14 pm:|
Marx heater tek
|By Tripitydoodah (Tripitydoodah) on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 01:43 am:|
i was wondering about a terrarrium with perlite on the bottom and i know to pre-soak it with a little bleach in the water. what if the water that went into the terr. had a high bleach content? and if you are going to say that the fumes would be harmful, how do you know? it seems that you might be able to create a chamber where contams would find it hard to grow. or maybe just a medium amount of bleach that might not be so brutal. discussion time please and thank you.
|By Brad (Raze) on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 03:22 am:|
Just mix in 10% hydrogen peroxide... does the same thing, only byproduct is good old H20 and O2
|By quote: (Quote) on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 01:01 pm:|
bleach anywhere near the shrooms is a bad idea,
stick to peroxide.
i know because i've tried it.
|By Tripitydoodah (Tripitydoodah) on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 02:50 pm:|
thank you for the info. my peoples.