|By Liberty_Caps (Liberty_Caps) on Tuesday, December 25, 2001 - 08:53 pm: The Nook|
ok I have been waiting all week for my syringes I have jars ready to shoot. so when I got my package in the mail today I was very pleased the I went into my room got everything ready to inculate then when I opened the box......
what did I see FROZEN hawwian syringes and frozen maztepec syringes
it's winter here in MN
I have never heard anyone complain about frozen syringes and im not saying like a little slushy I'm talking a SOLID ICE CHUNK
PLEASE TELL ME THESE ARE STILL good to use once they thaw out...????
I know its christmas so not many of you will be on today but SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME OUT!!!
|By ShrooMaster (Shroomaster) on Tuesday, December 25, 2001 - 09:04 pm: The Nook|
seems like spores would have to survive cold temps. how about knockin a jar up ans seeing if it takes?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Tuesday, December 25, 2001 - 09:16 pm: The Nook|
Wow... That sucks. It is said that spores are killed by hard freezing. I have also heard that sometimes you can get a weak germination...
I have never messed with frozen spores or syringes, so I am flying blind. How well are you equipped and how much experience do you have, i.e.: liquid culture???
I am going to go under the assumption that what I have read about frozen spores is correct and I am going to hope that perhaps some spores may survive and a weak germination is possible.
That's two assumptions in one post, so I will likely make an ass out of both you and me Mr. Caps... But I know you have been waiting on those syringes and really want to get something going. But understand I really have no first hand knowledge. Quo would be your best source for help.... But this is what I would do:
I would make up some liquid culture jars and substract 5cc of water from the regular 4% sugar solution. In other words if you were making up a 100cc Karo Jar make up a recipe with 95cc of water. Sterilize and shoot half a syringe in each jar... Two syringes, four jars.
This will save you a lot of work making up and sterilizing PF jars that may/will not germinate if my stack of assumptions is sound. At least the liquid culture gives you a chance...
That's the best I can do, and like I said...
|By Liberty_Caps (Liberty_Caps) on Tuesday, December 25, 2001 - 10:11 pm: The Nook|
well shit why has no one ever complained abot frozen syringes before?????
so I gusse this means I can't buy spores in the winter which is 8 months long here...
i've been looking foward to reciveing these for a while now and now this happens...
2 batches of my jars have failed so I thought I'd order more that way i'm garenteed to get something going.. so $20 more of my money is now MABY wasted....
well maby I should just try them on one of my jars once they thaw and see what happens...
I wish quote was here to help me out
well i dont know what to say.....
thanx guys for your help i'm not sure what im going to do yet maby i'll make a honey jar and see if that works?????
i'll go read in the archives how to do it...
|By Imok Urok2 (Imok) on Tuesday, December 25, 2001 - 11:11 pm: The Nook|
Not much help from me Liberty
But how about prints for those long 8 months?
Or do a print then hit the clone tek for the other months?
Just an idea.
cold man...real cold
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 06:59 am: The Nook|
Just got some syringes, they were frozen in the mail box(liberty_caps...). Inoculatd a jar w/plenty, will post back in 3-4 days, let ya'll know if I got any germination...U Caps??
|By quote: (Quote) on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 02:18 pm: The Nook|
did they leak ?
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 06:27 pm: The Nook|
No, didn't leak..question is, did any or all spores survive. We'll know soon...
|By quote: (Quote) on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 07:02 pm: The Nook|
i'd bet plenty survived, unless it was really cold for prolonged period of time. how long were they in the mailbox freezing ?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 07:37 pm: The Nook|
I don't know... But this is the second time in the past few days the guys up north have opened tubes of ice. Is my advice up there any good Quo?
|By quote: (Quote) on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 11:02 pm: The Nook|
i remember other winters, and other people getting frozen syringes. seems like most were still good, takes awhile to kill spores.
but yeah, nan, your advice was sound.
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Thursday, January 03, 2002 - 09:16 am: The Nook|
Less than 24 hours quo arrived New Yea's Eve, retrieved the next day. Had a feelin' I shoulda took a cold walk to the mailbox after midnite, but guess that'll give us a better test of how tough they are...I'm still a step away from the Karo tek, plan on trying it soon, as Nan suggested to Caps. But the test jars will tell the tale. Then, so will eye. Later!
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 07:26 am: The Nook|
OK. The jar I inoculated 01/01 w/PF are germinating nicely! Good deal. So they will tolerate freezing a least to some degree. It was in the upper teens that night too.
|By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 08:50 am: The Nook|
|By quote: (Quote) on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 02:46 pm: The Nook|
i figured as much.
that's good news.
|By ggg (Ggg) on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 03:51 pm: The Nook|
I need to watch my mailbox!
The thought of my Victorias Secret girls keeping my spores warm makes me crazy jealous!
|By exile (Exile) on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 12:34 am: The Nook|
I plan on ordering two
syringes for my first grow (plan to start late this month) - but I noticed a
warning message from the vendor.
Talking about how each package says what is in the package (mushroom spores and such). It also includes something about this only occuring during international shippings. I'm a bit nervous about ordering a syringe from this website because of their warning, though I'm in the US..I'm not too wild about it displaying the contents for the rest of my family and anyone else to see.
Do vendors ship descreetly to national destinations (USA to USA)?
Any answers would be much appreciated, sorry if this doesn't belong here... I'm a bit of a newb to these boards, not overgrow.com though.
|By plinkerdink420 (Plinkerdink420) on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 01:16 am: The Nook|
yes... just a rectangular box with your address and a return address if you are within the US.... happy shroomin'
|By Isaac Lipnick (Isaac) on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 01:29 am: The Nook|
I know what you mean- those warnings scared me too, at first. But like plink says, it's all really well done and normal looking. I live with my parents and it came in the mail one day without me getting home in time to intercept it from my parents, but instead of the nightmare I thought would ensue, my dad just said you got a package and gave it to me! No questions asked. Plus, I'm a newbie too, I'm having first time success (so far) with the exact same thing. Best of luck!
|By exile (Exile) on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 02:56 pm: The Nook|
Sent my letter a few minutes ago, in the mailbox now
It's been so long since I've written a letter - hope I did it right, and it gets
there.. Requested two spores syringes, included $20 to pay for them. Now all I have to do is wait.
Thanks for all reassuring words!
|By exile (Exile) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 05:46 am: The Nook|
Uh oh, a friend told me that spores die in below freezing temperatures? I'm sure they don't heat a room where mail is kept in.. uhhhh ohhhh..
Hope it isn't true - mailed $ last wednesday.. nothing as of yet. Then again Fanaticus is 100% West US and i'm 100% east US... dunno.
Any reassuring words?
|By mr. mista (Mistabud) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 05:57 am: The Nook|
Nope, not true.
There's been reports here of syringes that were frozen solid working just fine.
|By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 06:15 am: The Nook|
think if they are frozen it has to kill some spores? what did lib caps ever say about his germination?
|By mr. mista (Mistabud) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 06:29 am: The Nook|
here is a successful(?) story. Damn Spores!
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 09:12 am: The Nook|
Lib had that prob, then I got it...
It ain't a prob. Get 'em outta the 'box asap, bring 'em in, they're good.
|By Spunion_Elf (Spunion_Elf) on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 12:42 pm: The Nook|
Spores are thought to be some of the most rugged forms of life on the planet, possibly in the universe; second maybe, only to viruses. It's thoerized that some of the earliest forms of life on the planet were spores or viruses carried by an asteroid from another solar system. If they can survive the vacuum and extreme cold of space for millenia and the extreme heat of reentry, they can surive in your mail box. And even if they can't survive interstellar travel, spores and mycelia can survive in and on the ground through the winter, and come out of stasis in the spring. Even plant seeds that have been frozen in the arctic for tens of thousands of years, have germinated when dug up by archaeologists and given favorable growing conditions. I think every human being (myself included) should study more biology. It's fascinating and useful stuff.
This next theory is mine, I've never read anything to suggest this or back it up, I think I probably just missed it somewhere, but I think it's likely that we have symbiotic fungi in our bodies just like we have symbiotic bacteria. The conditions are fovorable and they would definately aid in digestion, they're chemical re-arranging powerhouses. Fungisides in our food might do more harm than good, and microwaves definately kill helpful biologicals and enzymes (are enzymes alive? not sure...).
Certain fungi produce DMT
The human brain naturally contains DMT....
Any chemistry students out there notice the similarities btween serotonin, DMT and psilocybin?
It's probably possible to make psilocybin or DMT out or serotonin fairly easily....
Things to think about
BTW: Please correct me if any of my science is inaccurate, I wish to learn
This is off topic, but if you wish to continue to please click on Eros & The Pineal - Nan
|By John Myers (Delerium187) on Friday, February 08, 2002 - 02:42 am: The Nook|
Can Spore Syringes Be Frozen and still be viable?
|By quote: (Quote) on Friday, February 08, 2002 - 03:14 am: The Nook|
|By John Myers (Delerium187) on Friday, February 08, 2002 - 03:26 am: The Nook|
|By MushroomStu (Mushroomstu) on Friday, February 08, 2002 - 03:42 am: The Nook|
How long wold a spore syringe last if frozen?
|By John Myers (Delerium187) on Friday, February 08, 2002 - 04:29 am: The Nook|
I would assume forever theoreticly but i may be wrong.