|By Dr. Cubesis III (Newbieshroomer) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 07:35 pm:|
A friend I have in the northern allainance went on a jar buying, innoculating binge all of last month. Every four days or so He completed another 12 jars And now the jar total is staggering.
He does however, have plenty of room to stack terrariums, and even a system to automate air flow thru such a stack. What he needs at this point is to buy another 4 or 5 terrariums to supllement
the 3 he already has set up. But he wants to know whether he should bother with a drip shield. Most of the new terrariums will contain casings of various types, experiments really. It's just that he has very little time to consruct these new terrariums and really got himself into a pickle by doing so many jars. He was just an over eager newbie and had no idea that virtually ALL of his jar work would colonize perfectly, which it seems has happened.
As usual, appreciate responses MUCHO!...
|By Underground_Shaman (Shaman) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 09:12 pm:|
Ultimately, drip shields are optional. I would go with perlite in the bottom of a rubbermaid. You can stack these to the ceiling. Mist the side walls and keep the perlite going well (moist, contam-free) and you shouldn't need a drip shield. A thin layer of vaseline on the inside of the lid will prevent water dripping onto the cakes.
This works for me and many others. Only problem is, all the "furniture" in your house is made by Rubbermaid
|By jared (Jared112) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 10:03 pm:|
Man I wish that all my furnature was made by Rubbermaid. I'd have the guys over for a party and they would be sitting on my terrariums and say "Hey Jared, where's the beer" Then I would just say, "We don't carry that shit around here, reach under your seat and pull out some fresh 'shrooms"
|By Dr. Cubesis III (Newbieshroomer) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 11:12 pm:|
LOL! Yea baby!
Cept, some case would be Marked " BEER"
Some " NORTHERN LIGHTS " And some " ASSORTED CUBENSIS "
Ahhhhhh the good life.
Rubbermaid, brings good things to life ;)
|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 07:28 am:|
As far as the drip sheild goes, I don't find it necessary. Use Perlite, a humidifyer if you want, and if you want or need to mist just spray the sides. After many a try I decided the drip sheild just reduced the room the cakes had and got in the way. Plus that damn plexiglass costs a lot, especially for many terariums. I think the drip sheild was meant for a non-perlite set-up. And perlite seems to be the way to go. If you have a bunch of terrariums, I suggest putting a drip sheild in one or two to see how it compares. I think you will find it is not worth it.
|By Fanaticus (Fanaticus) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 11:57 am:|
Drip shields are definitely worth it!
They make your terrariums fool proof and you can spray until your hand hurts without damaging the cakes.
Plus, a real advantage is that they provide two extra surfaces through the terrarium that will eminate humidity from their surfaces (if sprayed and misty) which can elliminate that messy perlite.
They are not just a "drip shield" but a humidity generating tek also.
And I have to add that PF was the one that "invented it" (published first).
Don't listen to the nay sayers - spray shields are good and when you make one, they last a life time. The trick is the elevate the shields over the shrooms to give full area for their fruiting. This just takes a little thinking to do and a few nuts and bolts and drill (with a rubber maid style container - I like the Sterlite ones myself.
|By Underground_Shaman (Shaman) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 03:23 pm:|
I agree with you PF. Drip shields are preferred, but I stand by my statement that they are ultimately optional.
General question: Is there evidence that a drip sheild in equal conditions can lead to heavier yields? (That might be a good experiment for someone working with cloned strains.)
|By Underground_Shaman (Shaman) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 03:25 pm:|
I'd just like to add that I started with a dual-chamber terrarium with a drip shield myself.
Only after getting this right did I try other things.
|By quote: (Quote) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 04:06 pm:|
pf's point about the extra surface area for evaporation would be the strongest argument in favor of it's use, imo.
i would suggest a drip shield in terrariums holding casings, as water dripping off the lids can really screw things up.
|By Dr. Cubesis III (Newbieshroomer) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 04:37 pm:|
Fanaticus actually got in on one of my posts, talk about blessed
I have seen the beauty of the drip shield in my 20 gallon glass terrarium. The tank is tall, and the drip shield holds most of the humidity ( generated by an under tank heat pad and perlite ) so even if the top of the tank and the top of the drip shield have no moisture on them. the portion under the drip shield is literally DRIPPING from the humidity. And my flushes have been Quick + Fantastic. I seriously doubt I could keep it that
tropical in there without a drip shield. My other
two terrariams are the same way, though they are fairly new and nothing in there has fruited yet.
I am getting ready to fully test my humidifier setup, but I am working with perlite AND the humidifier in an attempt to automate the tanks..
Don't want to be a slave to more than a few terrariums at a t time!
Anyway, if anyone is reading this cares, on the three drip shields I have so far I have drilled two holes in each plexi, about 3 inches apart, taken some fish tank tubing, and screwed into it from the underside of the plexi. Makes a great rubber handle and the drip shield is nicer as far as ease of use goes.
Thanks everyone who helped with my thread.
Final verdict for me, I have 6 terrariums. The
three that have drip shields, keep them. I will purchase three more to use without drip shields and take it from there.....
|By ratdog (Ratdog) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 08:20 pm:|
If your still reading this thread I've got a Q for you. You mentioned you liked the Sterlite containers the best, are you using the original top on these or have you replaced it with plastic wrap? Friend was using Sterlite with perlite on the bottom and a air pump in a cup setup and was unable to get suffecient humidity. After replacing with plastic wrap, the air pump makes it puff out into a little dome, thus removing the need for a drip shield because the water drops just run down the side!
Also, are your containers clear? Friend had to duct-tape his to stop the little guys from growing sideways and upsidedown.
|By plinkerdink420 (Plinkerdink420) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 11:57 pm:|