|By Kaijan (Kaijan) on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 12:08 am: The Nook|
yeah, im stupid sometimes.
1/4 pint, 1/2 cake. Whatever.
|By Kaijan (Kaijan) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 09:26 pm: The Nook|
(aka 1/2 of a 1/2 pint cake tek)?
This is really aimed at beginners trying to get experience by working with casings.. but still do not want to venture far from cakes.
You could say its a combination Wafer Tek and Double End Casing tek. Minus the fact you dont need to completely case the wafers and wait for colonization. (takes off between 3-5 days)
Why is this useful to anything or anyone?
To my knowledge, a cake will rarely survive long enough to drain its supply of nutrients. Why not put these extra nutrients to work in producing more mushrooms? Well the process is retardedly easy. But if you can't figure out this for yourself, here it is:
You'll need to take your cakes and give them a nice 6-8 hour dunk in water.
After the dunk, pull them out of the water and cut them all into 2 equal parts. (making 1/4 pint cakes.)
Find a suitable tray and put a nice 1/4 inch layer of moist verm on the bottom. Lay your cakes down into the verm (cut side down) and give the top a nice covering of moist verm.
Treat as normal cakes from here on. When they are done fruiting, give them a 6-8 hour dunk, and repeat the process for the casing.
I'm sure you'll find your harvest increase dramatically.
try it out for yourselves and let me know how it works out for you.
i'll find some pictures for you.
|By Kaijan (Kaijan) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 09:48 pm: The Nook|
some larger pins
1 more day to go for this guy.
Anyway. I don't think these pictures do the TEK much justice. I used them to prove you'll still be able to get large pins and really nice sized mushrooms despite having 1/2 the cake missing.
A Quarter was used to give some sort of scale. (appropriate for the Quarter Tek lol.)
Let me know how you guys do with this.. or if My buddy has just been gettin lucky for awhile.
BTW: This is a multispore innoculation of the PF Tek. There was no cloning at all.
|By Eatyualive (Eatyualive) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 10:23 pm: The Nook|
I use this tek sometimes. generally if i have to use cakes bc I am lazy or just have extras i cut them in half and double end em. same as you have here. it seems to work better than just having one whole half pint cake.
|By Kaijan (Kaijan) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 10:38 pm: The Nook|
Glad to hear you get better results then a whole 1/2 pint. I'm finding that aswell.
Thanks for the input, i appreciate it.
|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 11:58 pm: The Nook|
Kai, that is a good tek. I do the same thing, cutting the 1/2 pint cake into 2 or 3 and putting in verm. It really is a good way to keep it moist. Basically it is a cake that is quadruple-cased. What I also like, as you noted, is it is still easy to dunk the halves. I am also suprised by the size of the fruits, no smaller than a full cake would produce. Each half seems to produce as much as a full cake. I don't know how big a difference it makes but I pile the verm on the sides (I see your's are left open). As far as Hawaiians, almost every shroom seems to come out of the casing so I figure, why leave any open?
|By Kaijan (Kaijan) on Sunday, December 09, 2001 - 12:06 am: The Nook|
1/2 Cake Tek would be a better suited name.. sorry. I'm havin one of those days.
|By Kaijan (Kaijan) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 07:52 pm: The Nook|
Is anyone reading this or trying it??
you really should! :P
|By mushmasterflex (Mushi) on Wednesday, December 19, 2001 - 10:24 am: The Nook|
I am giving your tek a try out with a couple of my cakes. One question. How are you slicing the cakes? I just birthed and sliced two of my cakes with a sterile knife. They cut, but crumbled a little on the edges. I feel like I'm hurting my little buddies. Thanks.
|By Fishy1 (Fishy1) on Wednesday, December 19, 2001 - 06:57 pm: The Nook|
I quartered cakes and cased on the top and bottom with 50/50 vemic and perlite with lime. One 10" round tray with 2 quartered caked produced 200 shrooms, and the other trays had 100-175 on each. They were fairly small and "wet" shrooms, but the yield was excellent. I have never had such a good pinset/even flush.
I will post a pic, even tho it sux. fishy1
|By Fishy1 (Fishy1) on Wednesday, December 19, 2001 - 07:00 pm: The Nook|
|By Fishy1 (Fishy1) on Wednesday, December 19, 2001 - 07:07 pm: The Nook|
Well, you get the idea. The top pic is a harvest, the middle one is 1 10" round clear plastic saucer, and the bottom pic is 2 of the saucers side by side.
I dont know if it was the perlite or what, but I am still experimenting with it. The cakes seem so worn out now that I do not expect a 2nd flush. We will wait and see.
|By Kaijan (Kaijan) on Wednesday, December 19, 2001 - 09:42 pm: The Nook|
just cut them with a steak knife... kinda saw them in half.. then throw the verm layers on
|By Nan (Nanook) on Wednesday, December 19, 2001 - 11:16 pm: The Nook|
Kai, I will add this thread to Flat Beds as soon as it goes stale
|By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Thursday, December 20, 2001 - 12:54 am: The Nook|
Kaijan nice pics same with you Fishy1. Looks like a great tek from what I hear/see. How would you guys compare the fruiting from 1/2 pints? Pics look like they all grow phatties ontop, do you still get mushys on the bottom? would filling in the cracks were the cakes meet do anything?
Sorry if the questions are lame
|By goodNyou (Goodnyou) on Thursday, December 20, 2001 - 01:01 am: The Nook|
from my experience it also works well cutting the cakes into 4s.i do them lenghtwise and usually get a 7g. flush per 1/2 pint f substrate..
i have however found that it seems impossible to get a second flush..
|By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Thursday, December 20, 2001 - 11:07 pm: The Nook|
How come no additional flushes? 7 grams is what you usually get out of all flushes of a normal PF cake anyway though right?
|By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Friday, December 21, 2001 - 05:51 pm: The Nook|
Anyone sliced pints in half then cut the two 1/2 pint in half? Would the center of the cake fruit like the top and bottom?
|By Swilly (Swilly) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 07:28 am: The Nook|
kaijan,i find this works very well also!!! i mean why not get more for your troubles when it is so easy to do!! also are those p.mystery's?
|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 09:54 am: The Nook|
Craig, the inside slices will fruit just fine.
|By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 07:11 pm: The Nook|
|By Kaijan (Kaijan) on Monday, December 24, 2001 - 11:12 am: The Nook|
the pics i posted are of EQ.