|By boomer (Cmos) on Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 01:59 am:|
Has anyone heard of doing this?? I saw someone on alt.drugs.mushrooms post a message telling people to dunk in soy milk??
|By quote: (Quote) on Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 02:19 am:|
sure, it can be done.
i've also used skim milk and rice milk.
it should be done under refridgeration.
don't dunk more than 12 hours.
rinse the milk off afterwards.
and keep it in a nice clean terrarium,
as sometimes contams are problematic,
esp. with older cakes.
|By boomer (Cmos) on Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 03:05 am:|
Is there any advantage to using milk? Nutrients I suppose?
|By quote: (Quote) on Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 03:09 am:|
correct, it's the only way i know of to 'feed' a cake.
|By ion ewe (Ion) on Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 07:07 am:|
...other than a nutrient-rich casing.
|By quote: (Quote) on Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 02:13 pm:|
never seen anyone get a nute-rich casing to work,
care to expand on your remark ?
|By Lichen (Lichen) on Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 02:28 pm:|
I have used pure OGBD for casing...but the mycelium actually consumes it, so it only works as casing for a while. Technically it was casing, but in practise it served as a new food source for the colonies: cakes, beds, it's all the same. The nutrient-rich dung doesn't work because it becomes apart of the colony every bit as much as the rice in a cake. Then proceeded to dry out because guess what? No casing left
|By quote: (Quote) on Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 02:33 pm:|
dung isn't considered a casing, it's a bulk substrate.
same with straw.
|By Lichen (Lichen) on Thursday, December 06, 2001 - 05:52 pm:|
thx for the clarification
|By ion ewe (Ion) on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 06:19 am:|
Yes, that's kinda what I meant. If you put food in the casing material (or if it naturally contains food) then the myc. will be fed with it. Ever notice how cow pies aren't actually coated with mycelium on the surface? It acts as a casing in that it covers the thallus of the fungus and regulates moisture, protects it from sun and rain, and lets it poke sporocarps through it. But, it also acts as a substrate in that it is a food and water source for the fungus. Really just a technicality... didn't mean to offend anyone...
At any rate, I realized after my post that you guys were talking about whole cakes-- not beds or flat cake or any other "2-D" mycelial body. You are correct about nutrient rich casings not doing so hot in a controlled environment, though. They only seem to work in a natural setting. Sorry for the confusion.
|By Liberty_Caps (Liberty_Caps) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 02:38 am:|
what if you mixed some brown rice powder and some water up and sucked it up in a syringe then injected that water into the cake?????
would that work???/
|By SYDYSTYK (Addict) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 02:48 am:|
anyone tried using a soy milk solution in their substrate?
|By quote: (Quote) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 02:54 am:|
it might, but i've never had much luck 'injecting' anything into cakes.
|By SYDYSTYK (Addict) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 03:08 am:|
i meant during jar prep
|By quote: (Quote) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 03:18 am:|
my answer was addressed to liberty cap.
i've used powdered skim milk a few times in substrate prep, never soy though.
really didn't seem to make much difference.
the real need occurs later, when the cakes begin to dry out.
|By SYDYSTYK (Addict) on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 03:24 am:|