|PP's Endless casing tek||7||08/31 09:19am||Poopypants|
|By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 12:38 am:|
I remember reading about someone doing the Flatcake tek and just scraping the cake down or something after a few flushes and dropping new sterilized BRF on it. It recolonized and the whole cycle started again without jars or even innoculation. I thought it was in the archives, but I looked everywhere in the Flatcake section and couldn't find it. Does anyone recall reading about this? Thanks!
|By quote: (Quote) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 12:03 pm:|
very doubtful, any attempt to add brf in the open air would surely lead to contaminants very quickly.
|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 01:58 pm:|
I've seen stuff like that here and there. It's no tek and it's not in the archeives. It's just over-eager newbie theory. Lot of that around.
|By wycrobro (Newman) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 03:27 pm:|
Me thinka no good idea
|By mrnngglry (Mrnngglry) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 06:21 pm:|
over eager newbie theory.
try to say that three times fast.
|By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 06:38 pm:|
OK, I'll drop it, but from what I remember the guy said he was on the "third-generation" of doing it.
|By Lichen (Lichen) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 06:44 pm:|
it is possible that strong, healthy mycelium, under the right conditions, could take over new rice before the contams crept in, but problematic, certainly
|By nuecrew (Nue) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 06:49 pm:|
Could it have been sterilized BRF and verm. 50/50? Even with sterilization it sure would be a tempting treat for Trich. top down. I've cased with sterilized verm. on flat cake once with no contamination.
|By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Sunday, December 02, 2001 - 07:37 pm:|
He definitely said it was a sterilized substrate mix (verm+BRF).
|By skabb (Skabb) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 02:39 am:|
after the 2 or 3 flush of a cake,is this possible to save the cake by rehydrating it and giving some steril rice powder?
i will try it with my next cakes. But if someone know if it possible or not...
|By An guy (Boomer) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 02:45 am:|
If the cake is starting to wind down production-wise, I'm guessing it'd be lots more efficient to just start new cakes- adding food to a cake- how could you ad enough to get past the point of diminishing returns, you know?
YMMV, I haven't ever tried it.
|By quote: (Quote) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 02:40 pm:|
also you can dunk [see tek in archives] in skim milk or rice milk to 'feed' a cake.
|By greenthumb (Greenthumb) on Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 03:58 pm:|
|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 08:24 am:|
If you add uncolonized rice, even if you sterilize it, it will become contaminated. Especially if you put it on an older cake that probably has some contams stuck to it. It is better to use you rice to start a new cake.
|By skabb (Skabb) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 02:03 pm:|
|By Patrick (Valence) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 06:35 am:|
You once said in an old post ( I think ) that you were shooting your cakes with honey water. Any results. Been contemplating this but was waiting on your results.
|By quote: (Quote) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 05:30 pm:|
they contam'd & died.
|By Imok Urok2 (Imok) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 01:14 am:|
How about a cold dunk in a dilute honey water solution that has been PCed first?
|By quote: (Quote) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 01:17 am:|
you might make it work, but when i tried it, the honey left a sticky residue on the cake's surface, which quickly contam'd.
|By Patrick (Valence) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 01:38 am:|
I thought that you were directly injecting it into the cake itself. Not on the top. PC honey with water then inject inside. Think it might work. I'm going to give it a whirl. I've got six jars ready to birth but I am going to give them another week to make sure the middles are nice and colonized first.
|By quote: (Quote) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 01:42 am:|
i've tried both, dunking and injecting, and failed with both. doesn't mean you would fail,
just that i did.
frankly, i've never had much luck injecting anything into cakes, they don't absorb much and it just runs out/off.
|By plinkerdink420 (Plinkerdink420) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 01:44 am:|
i cannot remember where.. but i remember someone saying that a FOAF of theirs was using the IRT with honey enriched water and was doing great... seven flushes i believe... it was just a couple of days ago that i ran accross that thread
|By Nan (Nanook) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 04:10 am:|
I don't believe it. I work with a lot of liquid cultures. Unless he is fruiting in pressure box under sterile conditions, sugar solutions will start yeasts growing yesterday, bacteria in the morning, and mold by tomorrow night.
Just an opinion mind you. KISS
Feeding cakes organic nutrients causes contams to rise in a dramatic fashion. Now with the temps cooler at this time of year, you may get away with murder. Me, I advise not to chance it.