Trash Time---how?!?!

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By drylander (Romelur) on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:51 pm:

ok, so I'm finnaly trashing the 50 bages of quotes bulk tek that I've tried and failed with over the last few months.... lets just say I've turned to jars... anyways, I'm not sure what to do with my piles of green/white/black trashbags full of cakes gone bad... dump them in the big bin outside the appt? and what about the many plastic bags? (if you all convince me I need to head to the hills with a shovle to get rid of the bio waste...)

anyways, just would like some guidence on trashing my failings, now I just have a few jars, and they are actualy working, yay.

By Lichen (Lichen) on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 12:32 am:

just toss ' use letting the 'noids take over

By urok2 (Imok) on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 01:54 am:

Depends on your environment and location re natural disposal areas.
Do you have a big backyard or live in a rural area where you could go hiking without being stumbled on?
Roadsides along highways are nice as well as public rest areas, parks and industrial areas.
Any lakes, rivers or ponds around?
Any vacant lots or construction areas?
Just try not to look too suspecious, take only black plastic bags, dump/spread their contents out and take the bags with you, and don't leave any paperwork that might lead anyone back to you.
If you don't dump too much any one place (wear gloves and take the plastic bags with you) it shouldn't take more than a week or two to get rid of 50 bags into the environment.
Some work but not too much.
A bonus is you get to develop a greater appreciation of the environment of your area :)
(Plz don't have anything illegal on you in case someone narcs on you, dumping out potting soil/compost by itself is not a crime as long as you are not poluting, and I doubt the law would spend the resources analyzing one-one/half bag of verm/perlite/straw from cleaning your yard/repotting your plants)

By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 05:14 am:

I'd just toss them in the dumpster. No one will know what it is, if that is your concern.

By Brad (Raze) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 06:21 am:

Hell, take a walk a few block and dump it in a dumpster behind someone elses place. NOthing illegal with that

By Lichen (Lichen) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 06:25 am:

my advice would be to dump them as you make them...don't let it collect--not that this idea helps you right now...

By Patrick (Valence) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 06:52 am:

Actually dumping in someone else's dumpster is illegal. They pay for the garbage service. (Not that I havn't done it before) But may call attention to you if they know that you should not be using the dumpster. Why don't you just flush everything except the bags down the toilet and rinse the bags off and then just stick them in your own trash. May take awhile with the toilet but It has to be the easiest way. Just don't put to much in at once or you'll be looking for the plunger.

By An guy (Boomer) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 06:54 am:

Spread it on your lawn- can't hurt. Unless there's contaminations?

By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 07:06 am:

Watch out if you are using someone elses dumpster. In fact don't. I have a freind who did that before he got garbage service. The place found garbage bags in there the next day, went through them and reported him to the police. He was fined. Not for anything bad in his trash but for using someone else's dumpster. Of course, you wouldn't toss them with any personal information but it is still creating a risk to yourself. If it is appartment building that you live at then that would be a perfect spot.

By Vitti (Vitticeps) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 11:00 am:

Ya, good point about not using other's dumpsters. Trash service isn't free and many businesses frown on others using their dumpsters. After all if their trash is full and they have nowhere to put more then they have a right to complain if it's due to 'illegal' use by others.

Just use your apartment trash. No one is gonna go digging through it and if they do they wont know what they've found anyway.

By quote: (Quote) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 02:10 pm:

bad advice, imo.
drive several miles away from your home area then dump.
never count on good luck and the stupidity of others.

By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 03:43 pm:

i think the cakes you can just break up and throw it under a bush or in by a tree and barry it under some mulch. and the jars you can reuse, lids you have to toss rims u save. you can re use your aqairum. save everything you can!!!! perlite you can just throw ina yard and in like 1 month its gone and its good for the soil isnt it?
just make sure its not in your yard :X i do mine behind a building which has a shit loada land!

By An guy (Boomer) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:11 pm:

I'm going to reuse my lids- Since I ain't worried about sealing as if I were canning, I figure there aint' any reason not to.

By Lichen (Lichen) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:25 pm:

I reuse my lids until they're all rusty, then get new; not rich but poor are we in the pocketbook. I hate throwing things away

By Karna (Karna) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 11:12 pm:

Think about how much there is first since it is hard to get an idea of how many bags we're talking about.
Double bag them if they are transparent so a moulding cake is not visible from the outside.
Spray well with Lysol so they don't stink.
Then weigh the risks yourself : driving several miles away entails a risk of being pulled over and finding you have a large quntity of trash bags (which to most cops spells a weed harvest)
Dumping close to your home or in some other bin entails a risk of someone noticeing you.
I had the same problem some time ago with quo's bulk tek before things started to get a little better and I just dumped them all in my own garbage and no problem.
Shit come to think of it, I've dumped every single exhausted cake, pan, bed, bag, syringe, infected or not into the same friggin garbage for the entire five years or so I've been into this!!

By Nan (Nanook) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 01:51 am:

Find a low spot in the ground somwhere. Break up all solid matter to the size of a large marble. Deepen the ground if you need to, dump all organic material, Verm, Perlite, crushed cakes... Cover with a bag of topsoil, leaf mold, rotted wood... Nature will take it's course. You can throw on some grass seed, or ignore it.

Excavate some landscaping, plant bulbs, dig a hole for a bush or tree. Mix the material in with garden dirt and in days (with mositure) it becomes excellent potting soil.

Verm, Perlite and ground cakes are non-toxic and are processed by many sewer systems.

Composting is good. Mix with grass clippings, rotted straw beds, kitchen vegitable waste, lime, and water... Compost it good (6-8 weeks). A little bird told me once you can raise shrooms on good organic compost...

I have used all these disposal methods. I use combinations of burial, dispersal, and composting methods.

By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 02:07 am:

rock on nan :) i just picked up "the mushroom cultivator" by paul satmets and j.s. chilton, this book rocks but its kinda thick.

By Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 02:09 am:

by the way whats up with the chat, its sending me to something else on bravenet. check it out if you got some extra time.

By quote: (Quote) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 01:14 pm:

i always let my trash set awhile, too, so it gets all moldy. i figure people are less likely to mess with obviously moldy/spoiled goods.

By Liberty_Caps (Liberty_Caps) on Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 02:12 am:

hey guys,,
If I had a problem with green mold in the past. and now want to start another batch of cakes. will thier be green mold spores all over my house just waiting to attack my work.????

I may have to douse my room in lysol.
oh by the way I bought this wal-mart brand of lysol. will this be just as good??? it don't say it kills 99.9% of germs but I donno.

By Lichen (Lichen) on Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 02:38 am:

Fresh cakes are quite strong, and if you sterilize your growth chamber, put a fresh layer of perlite and saturate it,(or whatever humidifying tek) you should see fine, strong growth. If you clean, dunk, and re-case your cakes after the first flush, they will do it again.
Don't worry about the green. Spray Wally's lysol if you want; it won't hurt.

By quote: (Quote) on Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 02:41 am:

yes, if you've had green mold, there undoubtably are spores around there.
be sure to give everything a good cleaning before re-starting.

By Liberty_Caps (Liberty_Caps) on Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 03:03 am:

alright cool.
I have my setup in my room which may not be the best of an idea if you think about it,, health wise

By Patrick (Valence) on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 04:26 am:

I don't know about you or where you live but where i live it has an allergy index, which is a listing of all the shit floating in the air. I have a ton. Its always here. Nothing that you can really do unless you run hepa in an air tight room and never open the door. Seems unrealistic, it is. And even if you got a room completely clean, you would be dropping skin flakes with spores from the outside all over the place
(house dust is made up of almost 80% skin flakes)
So you can clean your growth chamber real good
( I would not suggest using lysol in the growth chamber unless you rinse it out afterward because it leaves a residue, which could be harmfull ) but besides killing some harmful bacteria that might be in there it will only be for your conscience, not for the spores........

By nuecrew (Nue) on Thursday, December 27, 2001 - 05:06 am:

Whats wrong with the public sewer system for organic matter like a cake or 50lbs. of it? I used to work for a sewage agency and believe me when they get done with it it is well processed and put to good use! The sewage first hits the "combinator" a set of opposing blades that slice and dice. Then the digester for 30 days for anaerobic bacteria. Then the aereator tank for aerobic bacteria digestion and then the settling tank. I've seen rubbers, balloons, baggies, cig. butts, they all float to the top in the aereator tank. Rice and vermiculite don't hurt the system. That was 30 years ago so I could be wrong.

By Nan (Nanook) on Thursday, December 27, 2001 - 06:09 am:

>> Verm, Perlite and ground cakes are non-toxic and are processed by many sewer systems.