Fruiting Problems

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Pinning early during Incubation  -    
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Having problem fruiting arcadian coast  11 12/22 10:39pm Tom Baxter

By pornderi Thompson (Pornderi) on Thursday, September 27, 2001 - 11:49 pm:

Hi it's me again, i have 4pf cakes that has been birthed about two weeks ago, no pinheads just fluffy stuff, not too much though. Can sombody tell me how to get some fruiting. can there be too much co2 when there's no fruiting and if so is that why we have to fan.

By Nozza (Nozza) on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 03:04 pm:

What's your temp? Fanning is to reduce CO2 / increase O2.

By Saney (Saney) on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 06:23 pm:

Try putting them back into their jars, fill with water, put the lid on then stick in your fridge for 16 hours.

By pornderi Thompson (Pornderi) on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 11:28 pm:

my temp is around 82-83 consistantly. i can only lower them with ice pack which would lower the humidity, plus will i contaminate the cake if i cold dunk them?

By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Saturday, September 29, 2001 - 01:22 am:

Temp sounds a bit high... what do you mean you can't lower the heat? Is your house really 82-83 degress all the time? That's pretty Hot!

Three things trigger pinning....

1. The introduction of Light.

2. A lowering of Temperature.... from a vegetatative growth temp of about 85 to a fruiting temp of about 75.

3. And a reduction of C02/increase in o2.... which means more Fanning in most cases.

A Dunk in the fridge won't hurt and the Cold Shock may, in fact, trigger pinning.

Temperature: Fruiting : Incubation : Lethal

Shroom Glossary

By Dr. Cubesis III (Newbieshroomer) on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 04:53 pm:


Ok, I have 6 cakes cased in one of my terrariums,
and one of the casings took off and gave me a GREAT yeild of huge shrooms. I wish I had a camera ( once again ) because I am not sure what the strain is. big stalks, big, flat heads, and the heads had whitish zigzagging stripes with a creme base, very beautiful, a shame to pick them really, but I digress....

Only one other cake has started to fruit, and it has fruited ONE mushroom in three days. The mushroom looks like a B+ or a romero I think.
It is about an inch tall, a little wider than a pencil, and has been the same size for almost three days. My previous flushes have been great, no stalling, ect... But this one cake has produced a single mushroom. Is this unusual???

Hopefully, if I continue to ask stupid questions as I go, I can help other people with thier stupid questions in return at some point... THANKS!

Oh, one last thing, I made 6 syringes from a large, dark Thai print from a reputable source...

I remember hearing good things about the thai strain, anything anybody knows in particular???

By quote: (Quote) on Friday, December 07, 2001 - 05:26 pm:

until you start growing cloned strains, you just have to accept that some will perform great, some will flat out suck, and most will be something inbetween.
it's just the bell curve of genetics, some spore combinations don't fruit, some do.

By Seedy (Seedy) on Monday, January 07, 2002 - 06:40 pm:

several time there have been these bobous, warty ,knot growths,and very stunted cap growth. is this a humidity problem, air exchange problem, substrate problem,or to much light?
any ideas!

By plinkerdink420 (Plinkerdink420) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 01:10 am:


By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 02:20 am:

If you are truly getting abhorts.. and nothing else.

The likely culprit would be lack of water to sustain the flush.

By Seedy (Seedy) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 03:49 am:

perhaps dunking half of the batch will test that theory. some have reached the size of super balls with out any sign of a cap
thanks for the input

By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 04:10 am:

If you could post a picture, that would be helpful in your diagnosis.

I'm not sure if they are abhorts or not, really.

By quote: (Quote) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 02:51 pm:

stunted cap growth is indicative of excess co2,
try ventilating more often.

By Mushiemagi (Mushiemagi) on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 04:15

Ok,I've been really patient up to this point but it's been more than two weeks after full colonization and my invitro cambo pins or lack thereof is pissing me off.As a first timer I don't have much to compare to and I could use some advice(other than be patient)or some kind of reassurance.I'm not sure of humidity but temp. runs from 65-75f could it be the strain?I've birthed one to see the results and if no progress is made with invitro I will do the same to one and case 2 others.Also I know bluing usually is bruising but the blue turned to gray and it's getting pretty ugly on the whole bottom(flipped top)any suggestions as of what to with that would help as well.


By Quote (Quote) on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 04:17 am:

never cared much for the cambos invitro, prolly better to birth and double end case in verm.
a quick 12 hour dunk in water should get rid of most of that bluing, see dunk tek on front page.

By Clovershea (Clovershea) on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 04:21

My only suggestion would be dunk them in skim milk overnight in the fridge. The combination cold shock and added nutrients might do the trick. AFOAF is a first timer too, but had excellent results dunking! Good luck!


By Seedy (Seedy) on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 03:43 pm:

this place is great.finally, people who know what the hell i'm talking about. thanks.

By Ron (Clubbenguy) on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 04:24 am:

Ok, I have had pins for like 5 days now. They only grow about 1/2 inch a day. The terrarium is only 70 degrees. If i increased the temp to 75-80, would the shrooms grow faster, a few other posts mention how you can leave for four hours, come back, and they are an inch taller.

By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 05:47 am:

More heat= faster growing, try not to go over 90 though.

If you do not have optimum water content in your subsrate, the shrooms can take longer to grow or abhort before thier time.

As long as they are growing, I wouldn't worry too much.

If, after getting your total flush, you think it was sub-par, you can then consider playing with different re-hydration techniques or trying a different strain perhaps.

By Ron (Clubbenguy) on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 07:00 am:

Thanks Brettie,

Always a pleasure to get sound advice.

By Brian (Poopyshoes) on Monday, February 04, 2002 - 05:45 am:

I just can't figure out why these bad boys aren't fruiting yet. I have 6 Equadorian cakes with the double-ended casing tek in a 10 gallon fishtank. I placed them in the tank about 2 weeks ago maybe even a few more days than that! I have seen nothing happen, really. I don't have any dis-coloration. The cakes have this nice, short fuzzy, whiteness which looks ok. The humidity is awesome since I put some magnetic strip on the top of the tank to hold the plexiglass lid on better. The temperature is never below 65*. Why is this happening to me? Please help.

By J. Tay (Recombinant) on Monday, February 04, 2002 - 04:25 pm:

If you could get the temperature to about 75 degrees, it would be more condusive to fruiting.

Other than that you look/sound like you're ready to rock.

By Scotsman (Barrowland) on Monday, February 04, 2002 - 06:05 pm:

as they say on this site everyother day , calm dowm ma man your nearly there

By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Monday, February 04, 2002 - 06:26 pm:

Yeah.... try to realax.

Could be a bad strain, I don't know where you got your spores.

If, after another week or so you don't see anything, you can give 'em a short dunk, scratch the outside of the cake up a bit, and then re-apply the double ended casing tek.

You should make sure they are not going to pin first though.

If the strain is good, it would be very unusuall to get no pinning at all on six cakes.(assuming the basic fruiting conditions are being met)

Make sure the light, fanning, and humidity are good and wait it out a while longer.

By Brian (Poopyshoes) on Tuesday, February 05, 2002 - 05:49 am:

thanks a lot. i feel much better now knowing that they still have a chance at survival. the strain is equadorian recieved via syringe from PF. i've grown these previously before and they seemed to have been pretty dank. thanks a lot for the advice guys. happy trips. peace out.

By Ron (Clubbenguy) on Wednesday, February 06, 2002 - 04:43 am:

Dont worry, it took me three weeks just to see pinheads. Increase the temp = shorten waiting time. I agree, try to bump up the temp. Patience is a virtue, especially if its your first time.