How long till shrooms grow after birth?

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By whoever (Livedangerous) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 03:01 am:

i birthed my jars about a week ago and i dont appear to have any contams, but im only getting a few tiny shrooms which are growing slow. am i impatient or is this a sign of low moisture, etc.?

By Nan (Nanook) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 03:18 am:

Have you picked up the threads under Dunking?

Dunk for the best shrooms is my advice

By quote: (Quote) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 02:51 pm:

could be low moisture,
never hurts to dunk them to make sure it's ok.
what's the temperature ?

By none (Paradigm) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 02:28 am:

ill bet its moisture to. Keep the temps up. Also I have read not to birth untill the first pins show this may be part of it. Did you case? How airtight is your container? Do you fan them or make sure the Carbon dioxide gets out of the chamber? are you giving them light? Light stimulates pinning. Maybe you just have a massive first flush comming up.

By whoever (Livedangerous) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 03:36 am:

nan, i scraped off most of the dry verm when i birthed them but i did not want to dig too much if that is what you are referring to. temp is about 65-70 generally and they get plenty of light i make sure of that. i have them sitting by the window although i hear direct sunlight is bad so should i change their location and i have a growing light on them about 1 hour a day. i fan enough i think but my lid is simply saran wrap because i haven't had time to built a wood frame so im sure it lacks a good seal. also i just drug my cheap ass to the hardware store today and had plexiglass spray shields cut. cheaper than i thought, i should have done it sooner. before i was just spraying against the glass to break up the water shitty i soon learned. i also have some in a chamber with perlite but it doesnt seem very humid in there...little condensation on the sides and lid. can you dunk them before a flush? wont that drown the mycelium if its not dry...same idea as not directly spraying the cakes.

By quote: (Quote) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 02:06 pm:

yes, you can dunk before a flush, so long as you keep submersion time at 24 hours or less, the mycellia won't drown.
but those temps are likely the real culprit,
boost it up to at least 75, more like 80, if you want to see real growth.

By drylander (Romelur) on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 03:51 am:

as for the Humidity not seeming up there, trust me, it is. All my meters are registering 95, min, yet, I don't see much condensation at all. perhaps perlite just really frickin' rocks?

By Nan (Nanook) on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 06:32 am:

Properly laid out, damp Perlite has the moist surface area of like a football field or something. The effect of hundreds of tiny pores in the material.

With a spray mister, the Humidity stays pretty high.

Temperature: Fruiting : Incubation : Lethal

By sean williams (Mynarsean) on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 03:28 am:

how often should you "air out" the terrarium. and what effects will not airing it produce.?

By greenthumb (Greenthumb) on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 04:42 am:

Try to Fan and Mist once a day at the VERY LEAST.
Not fanning leaves stagnant air in your rig. This is good for contaminates- bad for shroomsGive 'em the fresh O2 about every 8 to 10 hrs. This worked for my friend. Your cubes will love you for it! Not to dam often or temp/humidity might suffer....Find balance Sean.
Go to the Archives at this site and dig what you dig up! All 411 is right @hand!!!

Indeed!! Shroom Glossary

By Ron (Clubbenguy) on Friday, January 11, 2002 - 09:10 pm:

Ok, I have a full pint jar sitting on its lid double end cased. I put a layer of straight verm on top. The mycellium is networking itself into the verm and now the top layer of casing is very "infiltrated" with mycellium. Is this normal...I thought the pins would come from the sides of the cake. Now its acting like a normal CASING. I dont see any pins anywhere, but the cake is thriving....I will post pics if needed, but I cant imagine anyone not hearing of this.

By Ron (Clubbenguy) on Friday, January 11, 2002 - 09:11 pm:

Also, whats my timeline till pins.....if that is possible???

By quote: (Quote) on Saturday, January 12, 2002 - 04:11 pm:

you should see Pinning, assuming you're giving Light, about a week after it finishes colonizing the casing.

Double-ended Casing Tek

By Bjsloan (Bjsloan) on Sunday, January 27, 2002 - 09:15 pm:

My friend has 6 cakes which are fully colonized, which he birthed after about 10 days of full colonization. They are double end cased in a grow chamber with perlite and 6 hours of light a day. So far no pins and the mycelium is taking over the vermiculite on both sides of the cake. It is starting to look a little fuzzy, the mycelium growing on the top in the vermiculite. The mycelium is Hawaiin from PF. Whats going on and how can i get some pinning?

By Nan (Nanook) on Sunday, January 27, 2002 - 09:37 pm:

How long does it take? I don't know, should be real soon. Stop fanning but perhaps once a day and neglect them. Make up some more jars, read in the Archives, work on something else. Whatever you do, don't look at them!!!

One of the first rules of the magic here is that shrooms only grow when you are not looking, handling, or thinking about them

By Rhiz Lamellae (Annulus) on Sunday, January 27, 2002 - 11:43 pm:

Amen Nan! I'm always amazed when I get caught up in something other than my hobby and when I come back, either the jars are fully colonized, they've started pinning or there's a boatload of babies growing. You hit the nail on the head!