|By Nan (Nanook) on Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 11:03 pm:|
Most people don't bother to sanitize verm. It is practically sterile right out of the bag. If you replace the verm after every flush you should not have any problems with contams on verm (I don't) unless you got things too wet.
|By Martaxus (Martaxus) on Friday, November 02, 2001 - 12:13 am:|
If you want to be ruthless, bake the verm for 20-30 minutes in 300 F oven heat.
|By Organism (Organism) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 08:33 pm:|
I'm afraid of using verm out of the bag for casing and other applications, even though I keep it sealed up in its ziplock type bag.
Would it be cool if I pressure cooked it dry,(or wet?) in a pint sized mason jar or something since baking it is not 'safe'? Last thing I want is cobweb or some other invader after casing.
Thanx for input.
|By plinkerdink420 (Plinkerdink420) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 08:43 pm:|
baking verm isn't safe? i have done this on a number of occasions... what have i been risking?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 09:51 pm:|
Verm in sealed bags is virtually sterile. In the production process the material is heated well beyond sterilization temps.
You can bake it, pressure sterilize it, whatever to your hearts content, not going to hurt it and no harm will come of it.
|By Organism (Organism) on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 10:49 pm:|
so I could case with it right out of the bag, or should I sterilize it for good measure?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Sunday, December 23, 2001 - 01:28 am:|
Right out of the bag w/straight verm casings, no pasteurization or sterilization needed
|By quote: (Quote) on Sunday, December 23, 2001 - 03:59 pm:|
in my world, which is full of germs, it's safer to sterilize.
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Sunday, December 23, 2001 - 09:04 pm:|
With Nan on this one quote! Stuffs fine right out of the sack Organ. I strive to simplify myself.
|By kobayashi (Impalerzz) on Sunday, December 23, 2001 - 10:33 pm:|
thank you everyone for clearing this up. Ive always been a bit worried.
|By Organism (Organism) on Monday, December 24, 2001 - 01:40 am:|
I think I will sterilize before casing, I'm like Quote, my world is full of fungi & bacteria (Earth) Isn't it a wonderful world!
|By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 06:41 pm:|
Can someone give me the short version? Temperature, and any other vital info I guess. Thanks!
|By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 06:53 pm:|
It's already been exposed to high heat when it is made, so it is essentially sterile out of the bag.
But, an hour at 350 will make it "clean" for sure.
|By Mr. Tambourine Man (Tambourine_Man) on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 07:14 pm:|
When that vermiculite is soaked, do you mix some H2O2 in?
|By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 07:21 pm:|
No need for
H202 in the mix.
The heat does its job, wet or dry, but dry stuff keeps longer (if you wannna save some for later).
|By Arevewe (Arevewe) on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 08:39 pm:|
can you bake your jars instead of boiling them?
|By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 09:06 pm:|
The problem lies with the drying effect that heat from an oven has(dry heat).
You'd really have to play with the water content in the substrate.
I've never tried it personaly, but it must be quite difficult, or others would be doing it already, I would think.
|By nuecrew (Nue) on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 08:59 pm:|
I prefer the 50/50 casing for pinning. It's a pain pasterizing it on a stove top in a pot or PC'er. Last night I tried putting the casing in a large Al pan covered with Al foil and "baking" it at 250*F for 2 hours. It was somewhat drier than when I put it in but not scorched.