It seems to me that weed is really starting to cloud my trips. I really get the urge for just a few tokes right around the hour mark. The urge stays till I do. 2 to 3 tokes and all is well, and it really seems to kick the trip in in certain ways. But now with experimentation I am finding that the trip is much clearer and more is remembered the next day if no herb or anything is combined. Also the trip has less paranoia which is only mild sometimes but still annoying.

Has anyone ever experimented with and without mixing herb with the trip? It can really be hard to do since the herb does relax oneself when the edgies start. I have also used small amounts of alcohol at the beginning to relax and it works well, but I still find the trip is less visual and more heavy. I just hate the edgies thats why I have mixed before.

Ozone

By Nan (Nanook) on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 02:09 am:

I smoke weed like a fiend when I get a good dose of shrooms down, but I try to eat enough shrooms that the weed is like spitting into a hurricane. It settles the gut and as you said, takes the edge off, but does not do much to cloud the experience at the levels I dose for. I find it helps the visuals a bit (but 3-4 grams of powdered Rue seed taken 30 minutes prior to ingesting shrooms is the _best_ for visuals)

By Lichen (Lichen) on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 02:51 am:

ok, this is a subject I have strong opinions about.

Weed kills the buzz. Or it distorts it. Or it helps it. Or it enables it. But mostly, for me, it distorts it, sometimes one way, sometimes another, so that when I'm shrooming I _know_ for a certainty that if I smoke while shrooming, some kind of change will take place.

Several times this summer my sweetie and I ate WAY many shrooms, and wound up outside, all night long, laughing uncontrollably until our guts hurt. A toke at this time has little effect, but 20 tokes? Different story. A beer or three at this time? May actually intensify the laughter.

But of course, it will be unique for you...experiment and see what works best for you.

By sean williams (Mynarsean) on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 05:08 am:

i have found that red wine and shrooms go together very well.

bud and hawaiian baby rosewood seeds kick ass too.
munch four or five (no more though) seeds and in about 20 minutes or so smoke a bowl. you'll be stoned for hours, even on dirt weed.


mynar

By relic (Relic) on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 06:29 am:

it's a matter of personal taste. it can boggle the mind and blur the clearity the shrooms bring, and it can also send you on a magical voyage through the looking glass. it depends. timing can be crucial, mood, etc. start out slow, take a hit or two and wait a while and see what it does for you. while i also smoke like a fiend, i am a bit trepidatious when on psychedelics(more than a hit or two), at least on the upswing of the trip.

By Ozone (Ozone) on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 11:42 am:

I have tried the Rue once but only got a pounding feeling and the trip seemed less. This could have been messed up though due to using the old cranberry extraction method a few years back. Now I prefer shroom capsules spaced out. Hmm, wonder if Rue would be a good try now.

Ozone

By A Drunk Bastard (Adb) on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 11:48 am:

think i've had similar experiences Ozone, depends on the situations though for me. if the experience is one of those intellectual, introspective, heavy thinking kinda deals i feel like after i smoke i'm dumb, thoughts & thought processes feel slowed. but recently i got to chill with a couple of guys from my old crew(we all have witnessed the evolution of eachother, pretty much family) n it was a smokin good time, i got re-introduced to one of those trips with the uncontrollable laughter... hadn't had one of them in years so in that situation it was right on call n didn't make me feel dumb. yea i also like to have a couple beers around just incase, not necessary but sometimes it's on call, if i have more than acouple it seems to really dull the experience though.

when i initially got into the scene it was all about set & setting.... then it wondered away from that, and now i think i'm startin to see that aspect of it all again. i dunno, i guess that's been my experience.

By Ozone (Ozone) on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 04:43 pm:

I guess what made me really take notice is that I was on the quest of a good lights out visual trip. I havn't partaken in one in awhile. When I used the herb I could get visuals but I guess I would kinda fall asleep or just daze out. When clean tripping you are way more in the seat of thought as you said adb. Some alcohol with shrooms makes for a very social high to me since I can be shy and intrspective when buzzed on weed.

Ozone

Ozone

By Nan (Nanook) on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 07:52 pm:

Ozone I use Rue a couple of ways. One is to grind up the seed in a coffee grinder, dump it on a square of waxed paper and shoot it into the back of the throat followed with a chug of water.

The other way is to make a boiled tea using 2-3 drops of HCl2 to acidify the liquid and aid the extraction. Both work pretty good for me.