|By Professor Fustertingle (Fustertingle) on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 11:00 pm:|
Has anyone here ever blacked or passed out while tripping on shrooms? This happend to someone I once knew a few weeks ago...he was riding in a car and just blacked out when a wave hit him....when he came to, he had cold sweats and in his mental state he could figure out what happened. It scared the hell out of his orbiting mind...
I think that it might have been from him being dehydrated. One MUST have plenty of fluid while "out there."
|By Nan (Nanook) on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 11:11 pm:|
Low blood sugar was the likely cause.
|By An guy (Boomer) on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 05:57 am:|
Why do you say that?
I haven't seen that in my reading- boomers lower your blood sugar?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 06:19 am:|
I never said they lower your blood sugar... But a blood sugar level that would be tolerable under other circumstances can cause people to disorientate and/or black out on shrooms.
A piece of candy in the pocket if you have not eaten recently is all it takes to keep things stable if you feel woozy. And it makes for a quick recovery in most cases where a "spell" has occured.
|By greenthumb (Greenthumb) on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 01:02 pm:|
Very mild, I mean really mild cases of epilepsy are often felt as light head rushes or dizziness. My friend has this disorder. It is correctable with meds. Could shrooms bring on heavier symptoms? Any change in brain chemistry might.
I am quite sure the odds are bad that epilipsy is an issue here. It was just a thought.
|By Hootie your Hootie (Trusthefungus) on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 07:21 pm:|
Hello, this is a long posting, but it is interusting and informative.
I myself had a serious experience just last night 11/01/01. This is part of the reason I am on this site right now. About one or two hours after consuming a single stem probably about 2 g, I was watching fear&loathing, aimlessly wandering my apartment and doing the sort of unorganized things I often do when I begin to trip. In my bedroom, there was a hustler magazine which had now begun to catch my eye. The mild lucidity of my trip made glassy pictures of naked women seem most appropriate at the time. I sat at my desk while listening to the Star Trek movie which was playing in that room and flipped through the magazine. I was slightly gitty, laughing to myself about whatever that crazy vulcan was saying, and looking at this magazine, sometimes attempting to read articles, but the words made no sense in my brain. This was not sexual in the sense that I was not sexually aroused, and had no intentions of becoming aroused. I was just flipping through a porn mag watching a movie I had seen 743 times.
Then, I had an extreemely abrubt head rush that left me paralyzed at my desk, there was no time to enjoy it or prepare for it or even realize it. The kind of passing out you don't remember beggining, you only remember coming to. This probably lasted only a minute or two and as I came to, the first thing I could see or understand was this naked woman starring at me. What was going on? My body was nervous and pulsating, I was probably sweating but I was not aware enough to realize it. I had enough brain resolve to realize something was wrong and It had nothing to do with the couple of beers I had had. This was to intense and acute. I must have tried to get up and go get a drink or something because next, I found myslef laying a few feet from my desk, my head propped against a dresser in a most obscure fashion. I had completely collapsed. as If I had done nitrous. But I hadn't done nitrous, had I? When My mind was awake enough to realize I hadn't done nitrous, but I ate mushrooms that could have been contaminated, fear set in. I knew passing out without nitrous was not a good thing. I got myself onto the bed and tried to relax. Don't forget to breath I told myself, taking some deep breaths. I propped my head up on a pillow. Don't panic, panicing won't help. But in the next few minutes , I got worse. Nervousness beyond belief was instilled in my body. Visual pulses and body waves of cool clamy shivers kept me on the border of passing out. The symptoms got worse. I musterred up the little energy I had to make it to the fridge, mabye to get a drink, and to make it to the phone, maybe to call the paramedics. My next memory is waking up again. This time I was in front of the kitchen, a few feet from my apartment door. I came to, just enough to know I would pass out again, and I thought I might not wake up this time. I was about to call my girlfriend who had left earlier, and not on the best terms, to tell her I love her incase I died,and that I needed help. At the time I was serious but now this is silly. I dropped the phone passing out again and realized that most important, was that I tend to my body and present situation. Forget the phone I thought, we don't need paramedics. My father is a doctor and I'm a science major I thought, solve the problem. I had enough resolve to open the fridge and get a gatorade. I also had enough energy to grab a swig of milk. If there was a noxious bacteria in my system, milk would help, not vomitting, I knew that. I decided walking was to dangerous in my present state so I crawlled to the bathroom, and turned the tub faucet. All you need is a little swim I said to myself. I barely was capable of getting undressed and I was drinking the gatorade as I flopped myself into the bath tub. I slammed the 32 oz. of gatorade in a matter of seconds, feeling relief at the first sip. By the time the bath water was a few inches deep, all I could do was look at my foot and wonder " do I have the correct number of toes on my feet?" as I counted I laughed to myself and enjoyed the minutes of calm. I was alright. There would be no paramedics or hospitals for me tonight.Then I also remebered, I had boiled the shrooms quite thouroghly. MOST bacteria can't survive that. I had little to worry about. I knew then, that there would not even be any nausea or discomfort. I had corrected my blodd sugar with the gatorade and that was the only problem. The rest of the night was marvelous.
Because I only had a little fungus, I did not think to prepare for the trip as usual . I had taken a b-complex vitamin for stress and energy, and some advil for muscle tension. I had had some pizza hut food earlier and only a couple of beck's beers. Alchohol helps dehydrate the body, hyperventilation helps to cuase blackouts especially when blodd sugar is low, and mushrooms change the experience from a mildly scary and nervous phenomenon to full blown panic and fear of death. What a wonderful experience. I admitt , had I been anywhere else (in public) it would not have been good. But for me this was almost safe, and it was quite a learning experience. Take nanook's advice. A piece of candy in my pocket probably would have fixed this problem before I totally passed out on the floor. Properly hydrating my self with a sugary drink, would probably have prevented it all together. I have hyperventhilated before so I KNOW thats what this was, the low blodd sugar caused the hyperventhilation to persist so I couldnt recover simply by breathing, but it had never happened to me while tripping. That made it quite frightening. I was alone in my apartment, and I could have hurt or injured myself. Other situations are far more serious. So remember that piece of candy. It could save your life. When someone is tripping, they should act as if they have diabetes because in short, tripping can really mess with your blood sugar. Take care of your body and remeber its a trip, prepare for it. If you do these things you might have a wonderful time. Don't panic and trust the fungus.
|By relic (Relic) on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 10:39 pm:|
sounds like a crazy night. i had a similar experience, or rather my friend did, one night. we were also on a 2 gram dose. i won't go into all the details, but he was going through a basically the same thing, i was scared and he was too. good to know a remedy
|By Piss Chill (Catfishjohn) on Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 02:34 pm:|
Somehow I've always had the impressions that shrooms themselves seem to bring this on. Once I went to a Dead show with 3 friends. They all ate shrooms and I did a windowpane of 'cid. One of my friends collapsed in the crowd. Yes it was very hot and packed with people and it's likely he was dehydrated. His trip was ruined and he had to leave the show with one of the shroomers. The other guy who ate shrooms was also really freaked out waiting to pass out but I felt fine once I realized he was going to be OK. I used to always make a point of eating a good meal before tripping since shrooms or acid kill your hunger for hours. I've seen people recommend against eating before shrooms cause it supposedly reduces the effects but I always got off fine shrooming on a full stomach and never came close to passing out.
|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 09:10 am:|
I call those the shroom spins. I believe they are caused by a lack of oxygen to the brain. I have a very bad phobia of heart attacks. One time, while sober, I saw a humorous depiction of a heart attack on The Kids in the Hall. It was funny but it also made me hyperventalate and pass out. The way I felt before and after passing out was just like the shroom spins (without the psychedelic twist), which is exactly what you have described. Once you have experienced the shroom spins you have a new fear and respect for the shroom.
|By relic (Relic) on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 06:15 am:|
i've never got the shrooms spins. it fucks with my balance making walking seem weird, but i don't fall over or feel like passing out. acid used to improve my balance and center of gravity. i could do some things on my skateboard, like spinning in a circle as long as i wanted, that i could never do any other time. normally i might get 3 spins