|Shroom - Steeped Booze||17||Catfishjohn|
|Maybe I should try an extraction method?||10||Bigtex|
|PF's Magic Extraction 1||1||6/03||Fanaticus|
|PF's Magic Extraction 2||1||6/03||Fanaticus|
|Magic Extraction: Has anyone done this successfully?||4||Delekhan J. Delekhan|
|Ask Dr. Shulgin||1||cognitiveliberty.org|
|By Nan (Nanook) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 06:34 pm:|
get a juice steamer/extractor (not a juicer that smashes but one that steams-got mine for $40 at k-mart. get a hot plate. ( no flames or smoking !!) in the bottom pan, put your solvent. in the middle pan ( the one full of holes), put your 'material'. cover the top with a trash bag. flip the lid up-side down on top of the bag. take a section of a bicycle inner tube cut into a giant rubber band. tie that around the pot near the lid and tuck the plastic bag under it. the rubber will stretch to vent if needed but otherwise maintains a tight seal on fumes. do the procedure in a well ventilated area. load the inverted lid with ice. apply low heat via the hotplate. as the solvent boils, it will vaporize and rise thru the 'materials'. some will condense there & drip back down into the bottom to boil again. some will rise to the top, hit that ice-cold bag & condense, raining back down onto the 'material' to be cycled again. this is safe, because if pressure gets too high, the lid will lift a little, allowing pressure to vent safely. just keep the ice piled on and the hotplate set low. after a while, all of the magic will be dissolved into the solvent in the bottom, which you can then process as desired/needed, depending on what solvent you used. after you've finished steaming/refluxing the material and all the magic is in the solvent, you can boil off nearly all the alcohol and have very concentrated extract. a drop might just do the trick. you can extract & concentrate the magic from several ounces and put it into a thimble. use the ethanol extract to make jell-o shooters. carry it in an eyedropper & dose your friends. no more choking down several grams of dry shrooms-- just put a drop or two of extract on the tongue... btw, extract should be stored in cold dark place, opaque bottle is nice. about storing the extract in gel caps... seems likely that the ethanol itself would attack the capsule and eventually leak out. but if you took the concentrated extract and put it on some harmless edible powder( e.g.like rice powder), the magic would soak into the powder. you could then finish drying off the ethanol and then fill the gel caps with the powdered extract. instead of eating 6-10 caps, 1 would likely be enough. rice powder is also easier to digest than shroomage.
|By Nan (Nanook) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 06:35 pm:|
PF TEK mushroom liqueur tecknique
by Psylocybe Fanaticus
This technique describes how to extract psilocybin from magic mushrooms with pure 200 proof ethyl alcohol and make a magic mushroom liqueur of concentrated psilocybin to effect a powerful psychedelic dose as potent as desired. The entire process involves only the shrooms and alcohol. The alcohol is untainted with chemicals and poisons because it can be easily acquired from a liquor store (United States) either over the counter (in some states) or with a special permit (most states - see end of article section - "procuring 200 proof ethyl alcohol from a liquor store").
1. Acquire quality psilocybe cubensis shrooms (harvested before or just as the veils open and cool dried with desiccant). The more shrooms used in the beginning, the more potent the concentration can be when finished. Use at least several grams of dried shroom material to make the process worthwhile and effective. The shrooms need to be thoroughly dry (rock hard) to allow pulverization. To pulverize the shrooms, put them into a small strong zip lock plastic bag (freezer bag), cover the bag with a magazine (for protection of the bag) and pound it with the rubber heel of a large shoe. After pulverization, pour the shroom material into a bottle that has a tight fitting leak proof cap. Add enough alcohol to cover the shroom material to make a loose slurry. Shake the bottle well and let it sit for 24 hours. Shake it now and then to activate the extraction.
2. After 24 hours of soaking, filter off the alcohol. Inexpensive dust-pollen masks make excellent filters for the slurry. These are available at hardware, drug and paint stores. They are usually white or tan colored, fit over the nose and mouth and are held on to the face by a rubber band attached to the filter. Fashion the filter over the mouth of a drinking glass. Shake up the bottle of slurry, and pour some slurry into the filter. Squeeze the filter and slurry to extract the alcohol. There are many details to deal with, but doing it once reveals them all. Experience is the best teacher. Store the extracted alcohol in a fresh bottle.
3. Retrieve the shroom material from the filters and resoak the extracted shroom material with fresh alcohol and repeat steps 1 and 2 (secondary filtration and reclamation).
EVAPORATION AND CONCENTRATION
Combine the alcohol extracts into a glass. Place a small electric fan (small desk clip on fans are perfect) near the glass and point the air flow directly down into the glass until the surface of the alcohol ripples. This will speed the evaporation and concentration. The process will take several hours. The more alcohol extract - the longer the evaporation time. As the alcohol evaporates and the level recedes down into the glass, wash the residue that adheres to the inside of the glass back into the solution. Any fumes that are generated will be harmless because the alcohol is a non poisonous drinkable spirit. Keep flames away from the solution - pure alcohol is very flammable.
Evaporate the extract down to the concentration desired. 1 to 3 or more grams of dried shroom material to 1cc of alcohol is a potent brew. The more concentrated it becomes, the less alcohol needs to be consumed. When taking a dose, the alcohol can be evaported and the shroom extract taken. Dispense the psilo-liqueur with a syringe for accuracy. Accuracy is important, because a slight over calculation could put a slightly reluctant psychonaut on pluto when only the moon was targeted.
The concentrated shroom liqueur will have a pungent mushroomy aroma (like fungi perfume). Store it in small screw cap bottles or vials in the freezer. Alcohol doesn't freeze solid and will remain liquid.
PROCURING 200 PROOF ETHYL ALCOHOL FROM A LIQUOR STORE
First, call a well stocked liquor store and ask if they have 200 proof anhydrous ethyl alcohol. Full service liquor stores supply hospitals and laboratories with 200 proof anhydrous ethyl (100% pure ethyl alcohol - no water) in the United States. 200 proof is preferred because it has no water. 190 proof (95% ethyl - 5% water) is ok but 5% residual water is a negative, especially when evaporated down. If the store doesn't have 200 proof, the salespeople will know where to get it.
If a permit is needed, call the state liquor board (usually in the State Capital) and ask for an application to get an ethyl alcohol permit. The fee is 5 or 10 dollars. On the application will be a question asking what the use of the alcohol will be. Write what they more or less want to hear. State that the use of the alcohol will be for "non-toxic surface sterilizing plus herb extraction - preservation - tincture - and perfume making" (or something to that effect). The poison warnings on the alcohol bottles and this idiotic red tape are just bureaucratic nonsense that results in the state making a big fat bundle off of the sale.
200 proof ethyl alcohol
drinking glass (spoon - knife ect.)
bottles with tight caps (whiskey bottles - pop bottles - ect.)
small desk fan
10cc syringe (measurement and dispensing)
|By J. Tay (Recombinant) on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 02:11 am:|
Solution slightly clouded from ultra-fine shroom particles, need to filter again w/paper?
Should I, risking losing good stuff in filter paper? Is the sticky residue on the sides of the evaporating dish what I want?
|By SYDYSTYK (Addict) on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 04:27 am:|
hey i dont know the answer but i was wondering if you would run over how you did this for us
|By jack cracker (Cptcracker) on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 04:37 am:|
are you doing alcohol or methanol extraction?
filtering gives you a cleaner finished product, since all of the alkaloids should be disolved in the liquid. as far as losing precious substances in the filter paper, how about wetting it with your solvent first? i don't know if it really makes a difference, but i like it. and yes, the sticky stuff is what you want. if you leave it for awhile in a well vented area, it will dry somewhat... make sure you give it at least 24 hours to ensure complete evaporation of your solvent... good luck, and enjoy! Jack
|By J. Tay (Recombinant) on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 08:57 am:|
My friend powdered ~5g desiccated Hawaiian abhorts w/mortar & pestle, twice he soaked in 1/2 pint jar w/Everclear (no 200 proof available) and drained through permanent coffee filter.
I guess he tried coffee paper filter to get finer particles but still have light brownish dust in solution, evaporating under a fan.
So he should evaprate to dryness? We have an agenda with the product and can't wait around for too long. Can already see product floating atop alcohol so he says he afraid that filtering would steal it. I guess that's product, as the shit is sinking...
|By jack cracker (Cptcracker) on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 06:09 pm:|
Since everclear isn't poisonous, you can consume whenever you like, regardless of dryness. If you want it dry sooner, add a little heat to the equation, it will speed things along. No need to filter further.
What kind of dosage are you expecting?
|By J. Tay (Recombinant) on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 08:02 pm:|
What kind of dosage am I expecting? Well, by gauging the potency by eating 3 single fresh carps the other day, hopefully the kind that will steal my face.
|By Fanaticus (Fanaticus) on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 08:03 pm:|
Psychedelic Sugar cubes?
Here is an interesting tid bit for y'all.
This is a snipet from the forensic science
report on the PF TEK (www.nansnook.com/archives/tek/forensic.htm)
"Samples were allowed to soak in methanol
overnight. The methanol was decanted into a
shell vial which was then
condensed to near dryness (<one half mL)
using a stream of air. An aliquot was removed
for thin-Iayer chromatography (TLC). The mycelium
knot samples were analyzed by TLC and
by gas chromatography with a
mass spectrometer (GC/MS) in this methanolic
extract state without any clean-up".
So how does one get METHANOL? I called
all world scientitic in Lynwood wash (north of
Seattle). YOu can buy the stuff there over the
counter - no controls. They can sell you some
REAGENT GRADE methanol that evaporates off cleanly
--- 4 liters for 38 bucks.
So then, you do the soak and pour offs and then with
a small fan - blow the extract almost dry, then
impregnate sugar cubes and check the odor. Then,
with the fan, dry them off until no residual odor
of methanol is detected.
Is there Anybody out there that wants to try that?
|By greenthumb (Greenthumb) on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 08:19 pm:|
Wouldn't any amount of methanol melt sugar right off? I'd love to hear about it. I think making tea would be alot easier-
|By Nuecrew (Nuecrew) on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 09:19 pm:|
Purple Owsley, Orange Sunshine, Green and Strawberry Barrels, Blue Flat.....I'd love to try a sugar cube!
|By monkeyod (Monkeyod) on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 09:38 pm:|
I tried extracting with vinegar (100 ml to 4g of shrooms). A two day soak(got very blue) then with a fan evaporated it down to 10 ml. Tried it a few days back and nothing. Read that this was the best way as instead of alcohol, but it seems like a bust. Good thing I've got plenty of goodies sitting in the freezer (30g dry) so it will still be a fun Halloween!
|By Fishy1 (Fishy1) on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 10:03 pm:|
I want to try it!! Sounds like it would work...
Might be interesting, and a cure for those,"I hate the taste!!" blues!
Tell me more.....fishy1
|By relic (Relic) on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 03:35 am:|
i'd love to try it, but i don't know where to get the methanol here.
|By jack cracker (Cptcracker) on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 05:54 am:|
The home-made coldfinger in the archives is perfect for extracting methanol from any over the counter source: gas dryer, windsield washer anti-freeze, etc. Methanol will completely evaporate in a relatively short period given temperature and ventilation, which is very important due to it's highly poisonous nature.
Sounds worthy of investigation, got to look into giving it a try, thanks for the tip! Jack
|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 10:42 am:|
There is a process to extract psilocybin into some kind of alcohol or ether on http://www.erowid.com. It is somewhere in the mushroom vault. It didn't sound to complicated.
|By Black Star (Mr_Bug) on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 03:38 pm:|
What's the difference between ethanol and methanol?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 03:42 pm:|
Ethanol is a product of fermentation and can be consumed. Methanol is "wood alcohol" so called because it was orginially produced by the destructive distillation of wood (heating wood in a chamber until it turns to charcoal produces methanol). Methanol is poisonous.
|By Black Star (Mr_Bug) on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 06:22 pm:|
I guess I would much rather use ethanol than methanol then! Why would anyone use methanol if its poisonous and methanol is so easy to procure?
|By Nan (Nanook) on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 07:10 pm:|
Properly made the final extract is methanol free.
|By Black Star (Mr_Bug) on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 07:28 pm:|
Still, is methanol any better than ethanol. Ethanol is still easier to procure.
|By Nan (Nanook) on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 08:04 pm:|
If it weren't better, why would they use the poisonous stuff over the comsumable stuff? That's my logical thought... It is documented that Methanol is the preferable solvent somewhere, but I am unable to locate a source. PF may have details on his site.
|By Fanaticus (Fanaticus) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 12:05 am:|
Every where I read in science journals, when they extract alkaloids and stuff, they always use Methanol. I have never read of ethanol being used, although I always thought it should work too (Stamets thinks so to - but we both might be totally wrong).
Use Methanol! That is what the scientists use and if you get good reagent grade Methanol, it evaporates real clean. It smells ugly and any residue will be easily smelled.
|By Fanaticus (Fanaticus) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 12:09 am:|
also, I once used some of that denatured alcohol to extract some shrooms. It has some methanol in it to poison it (a small amount). I extracted and filtered and let it sit over night. The next day the container had a lot of "STUFF" in the alcohol. When I evaported it off, there was some nasty sticky goo that was ugly, but in it and on top of the sticky goo - I got off CRYSTALS. I looked at them under a magnifier and they looked like salt.
Was that it? I never tried the crystals but just played around with it. No bioassy, but the crystals were really interesting.
|By Nuecrew (Nuecrew) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 02:15 am:|
Many years ago I was in a room without ventilation while evaporating two 12" "watchglasses" full of methanol on top of hot water being blown with a fan. After about 20 minutes my face started to turn red, my ears turned red and my heart started racing. It was a scary feeling. Be careful with methanol fumes! Oh to own a rotovap.