Dunking after birth?

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By Snoopy (Snoopy) on Friday, October 19, 2001 - 04:31 am:

I read a old post in my endless readings in the archive posted by nan that he/she suggested Dunking after the Birth of the cake from the 1/2pint jar PF-TEK style.....

Any opinions on that? I just feel as if my cakes don't have enough Water in them.

By Lichen (Lichen) on Friday, October 19, 2001 - 04:38 am:

cakes slowly turn blue when they're badly dehydrated. Whether cakes should be dunked at birth depends on water content at birth.

By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:00 am:

I like to do a short dunk(6-12 hours) at birth regardless.....

This will help to balance out any water deficiencies either real or imagined.

I've never killed a cake yet by dunking at birth

By Nan (Nanook) on Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:05 am:

Nor I:)

By Nan (Nanook) on Friday, October 19, 2001 - 06:08 am:

Good Job Snoopy:):)

The best way to dunk is to put the cakes back into Clean Jars. At least run them through the dishwasher with some bleach.

Fill the clean jars with Clean Water until the water is right up to the lip of the jar. The cake will be floating... Then place a clean plastic soda bottle cap (hint: wash the bottle caps with the jars), rounded side down, on the center of the floating cake. Place the lid on carefully and screw it down over the sink.

A few tablespoons of water will spill out, the soda bottle cap acts as a spacer and holds the cake submerged. A nut sized wad of foil also works.

Pop the jar into the fridge. Note the hour. Dunks range from 6-24 hours generally depending on the mositure requirements of the cake. I dunk freshly birthed jars from 12-16 hours. Sometimes dry cakes need the full 24 hours, sometimes a second flush cake that flushed weakly the first time around won't need a dunk at all. It depends on the individual cake, but I give them all a good drink at birth. Others do not. There are different Teks too.

After the dunk, open the jars over the sink, drain the water, and rinse the cake off under the tap. Then Re-Case and return to the Fruiting Chamber.

That's my best Dunk Tek

Contams after Dunking

Grow Chambers & Clean Rooms : Double-ended Casing Tek : Shroom Glossary

By Patrick (Valence) on Friday, October 19, 2001 - 07:33 am:

So if you dunk after birth do you birth before any pin heads form or do you remove the ones that have started and then dunk?

By Nan (Nanook) on Friday, October 19, 2001 - 07:41 am:

You can dunk with pins

By TooMushTrippin (Toomushtrippin) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 04:44 am:

i just dunked a cake(at birth) and put it in my fruiting chamber. my question was should i use the double end case tek for the cake or is just placing it in there ok? what do you guys recomend?

By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 05:32 am:

I use the double ended casing treatment after my dunks, but not everyone does.

Both ways work, but I like the idea of more water available to the cake as it needs it (through the verm).

Why dont you try a few of each and see which you prefer?

By Organism (Organism) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 09:05 pm:

Well, I'm stuck at a decision point. I think it would be in my best interest to rehydrate my cakes when I birth them in about a week. They are real close man, but they are beginning to shrink a little, especially around the bottom of the jar where colonization is most abundant. this is normal I'm sure as the mycilium are eating. I just don't want them to be to dry to keep them from a strong first flush. So, should I dunk, or drill 3 holes? If I dunk is distilled water ok?
Thanks man

By Dr. Cubensis (Shroomzilla) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 09:17 pm:


When your cakes are COMPLETELY colonized on the outside, wait a week. AND THEN dunk each cake separately for around 24 hours. Then Pf double case.

There are many ways to do hydrate your cake.
But go with what I offered and you will be fine, and get a GREAT first flush provided your fruiting chamber is up to snuff.


By Nan (Nanook) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 10:22 pm:

Yeah I'll second that. Distilled water is fine.

By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 10:24 pm:

Yes, distilled water is good.

You could dunk, and then drill a few holes for the inner resevior and leave out the verm altogether if you wanted to.

Just as long as you are replenishing the water somehow, you should be O.K.

By quote: (Quote) on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 11:19 pm:

i'd use spring water instead of distilled, personally.
it has a few minerals to contribute, unlike distilled, which is utterly barren.

By ion ewe (Ion) on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 02:29 am:

Then again, the source of the spring water is important. You don't want a bunch of magnesium... none, if possible.


By Organism (Organism) on Thursday, January 24, 2002 - 05:33 am:

Thanks guys, I think I'll dunk them all at birth using distiled water in quart jars that I have pressure cooked (sound paranoid about contams huh). Then I think I will experiment and use this Voodoo Tek of Quote's to see what all the fuss is about!I forgot to say that the strain is PF classic and from what I have heard they like to fruit right off the mycilium so I don't really want to mess with vermiculite casings. I just hope they are not this damm degenerated genotype there talking about now!

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