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How an Archive page is created 1   Nan
Can anyone recommend a good book on growing?  5   Kenny Keller
Just had to share this...  11   monkeyod
Directions for posting pics??????? (obsolete, still a good thread)  18   onediadem
The Chat 1 02/23 Nan & Dip

By Marx2k (Marx2k) on Friday, October 05, 2001 - 09:07 pm:

I think you folks underestimate the heartiness of mushrooms. I mean, continually reading posts like "Should I Mist my Casings/Cakes with spring water, tap water, pond water, misty mountain spring water, etc" and "Is this brand of BRF better than this brand when it comes to mushroom cultivation?" is kinda getting old. Sure, there are Contaminants in tap water. But do you guys think spring water is bottled in a pristine and germ free lab of some sort? Do you guys actually think one brand of organic non-anti-fungal brf is better than the other?

When you think up questions like these, just remember than whn you ASK them, you will get 50 different answers from 50 different people telling you to do 50 different things

Also remember that mushrooms are pretty damn hearty especially when you drop them into a casing and let em grow. The only sterility you REALLY REALLY have to worry about is when dealing with agar cloning and innoculation of jars. And even that can pretty safely be done in a filthy kitchen in front of a filthy oven turned to 350F with pretty good results.

Im not saying your questions are lame or anything, and they bring about interesting discussion but FOR CHRISSAKES THEYRE THE SAME DAMN QUESTIONS ACROSS 3 DIFFERENT DISCUSSION BOARDS (shroomery, mycotopia and forestfloor).

Also, as far as I know, those are the only 3 happenin' discussion boards... can someone tell me of some different ones that I havent seen yet? Thank you.

And dont let me stop you guys from posting your questions, I just figured I'd let you folks know whats going on in MY mind :)

By Lichen (Lichen) on Friday, October 05, 2001 - 11:15 pm:

You should realize that most of the people asking these kinds of questions are newbies who haven't taken the time to read through dozens of pages of info. They have legitimate concerns and need patience, not rebukes. Sure, they're inexperienced and ask questions; but they need a break. Don't criticize people for being new and asking questions. It's rude and makes you look like a jerk.

By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Saturday, October 06, 2001 - 12:11 am:

I would tend to agree with Lichen... Lets make sure we eliminate the chances of failure so that the new guy can succeeed.

Once you at least MOSTLY understand the entire growing process.... then you can start to cut corners.... until then, stick with the tried and true.

I was new once too and and will be forever gratefull to those that took the time to teach me.

Let's extend the new guy the same courtesy... that is what will keep THIS SITE strong.

I know that I've said this before but I believe it with all my heart.... you gotta be willing to give it away to keep it people.

By Marx2k (Marx2k) on Saturday, October 06, 2001 - 12:34 am:

I understand that newbies do need proper guidance and all, and I don't mean to come off like a jerk but if they need this information, why not take the time to look through archives or other people's posts??

By Glassman (Glassman) on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 01:28 am:

I kind of like reading the same questions all the time. It gives life a nice state of constancy that you can't really get in many other places.

By Nanook of the North (Nanook) on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 07:18 pm:

Well one reason is that the archives suck. I am in charge of them so a lot of this sits right at my doorstep...

But this board is still relatively young... And I bounced off on vacation for the entire month of September, and when I returned aligators and hound dogs (and a bill collector here and there) were nipping at my heels.

Right now is the time when detailed, informative, productive answers in a pleasing and cheerful tone to newbie questions will really pay off.


Because I am on the Archives now. As soon as the threads with these posts are stale, I will delete the chit-chat messages and move the entire threads into appropriate folders in the Archives. Once the basics are set up, we can simply post the link to the appropritate Archive folder, and bingo... The questions will be answered.

It's a plan. It's gonna take some work. I have made a commitment to see it done, and see it done properly. The best help I can get from you guys is to pour out your knowledge for a little while longer... I plan to have a shroom archive that is second to none: tight, organized, readable, and packed with _your_ experience.

The questions, and the threads that contain them will _never_ go away... Because this board is growing fast and new people are coming all the time. I want them to come. But the time spent helping these new growers can, and will, be reduced once we get a set of workable tools in place to pre-answer the questions posed.

I am sorry if people are frustrated. I know the reasons why. All I ask is your patience a little while longer, and please be nice... I want the archives to reflect the spirit of this community: friendly, helpful, teaching and learning.



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By Nanook of the North (Nanook) on Thursday, October 11, 2001 - 05:12 pm:


No hippie

By Nan (Nanook) on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 04:33 am:

Well Guys... I think I made a difference. I promised I would build a system to help stop the endless re-answering of questions... As of today there are 58 posts about Brown Rice in the Archives, and there are still more (with pics even) in Growing that will be coming up...

But I am going to stop here, at post 10000, and reflect. At this moment there are 14900 messages on the board, And 10000 of those posts are here... Organized, loosely indexed, and linked...


Postscript... 2-26-03, and a bit of history.  In about April of 2001 hippie3 started a board called Mycotopia. It lasted less than 5 months.  As the site grew, the host, Andy at, insisted on additional funds to cover the board's expanding bandwidth usage. Rather than negotiate, hippie went into a rage, and Andy at pulled the plug on the site. The 500 or so members (some of which had become close friends) scattered.

It was through the action of Vitticeps, who downloaded shareware board software and loaded it on his home computer, that Mycotopia was reincarnated. We gathered a group of about 12 of us.... And we restarted the board. Vitti solicited links, purchased the domain name, and we rebuilt the membership. Brettie, Lichen, Kaijan, and myself.

Then one day hippie3 registered on our board.  At the time Vitti was absentee admin, I ran the day to day (and built these archives). I authenticated hippie, and Vitticeps made the mistake of giving the trickster hipster the admin password.

"There can only be one" was his first statement when he took over, and I knew we were doomed. My board was hijacked. A number of senior members who we had had no problems with previously packed up and left. It soon became obvious why. There is no need for me to recount my personal injuries, but I will document the confrontation that led to the Nook.

Hallows eve 2002 hippie3 and I met in chat which resulted in the creation of Nan's Nook.  Here is the chat, unedited: The Chat