|By Bigtex (Bigtex) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 03:43 am:|
I tried my shroom once again and again i got sick and hurled. So my next thought is to try an extraction method to see if it is maybe the shrooms themselves that are making me sick.
What are yalls favorite methods? I liked hot chocolate the one time i tried it but it is tricky to heat them up but not over heat.
|By Brad (Raze) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:24 pm:|
Was it the flavour that made you hurl? Or was it later. If it was a while later then
a) Your mushies are rotten
b) You have a week stomache
For b you just take some gravol ahead of time, or make some nice tea with them, or grind em and spread em with peanut butter.
For a you gotta make sure you pick em and dry em properly
|By Bigtex (Bigtex) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 02:15 am:|
Im afraid it is a) but they dont look rotten or anything. I dont have a weak stomach. They dont have any signs of rot and they dont smell bad or any thing. If i make tea and they are bad wat will happen?The same thing that has happened or wat? cause i still get high off of them if it wasnt for hurling every 30 min.(heehee that part sux)
|By fishpoop (Fishpoop) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 05:52 am:|
I feal your pain brother. I read about a guy that don't hurl but gets the stomach jitters and is uncomfortable. General unpleasantness for an otherwise very pleasant experience.
He did an alcohol extraction and was very impressed with the results. No nausea but the yield wasn't as good as eating dried. 3x100cc for 24 hour soakings with everclear of 10g dry. Then combine the alcohols and evaporate to 10cc. 3cc=1.5g dry as a guess to yield. There is a tek out there for this method
When the alcohol got very reduced a fatty precipitate accumulated and was redisolved with the addition of 1:4 lemon juice/water. (The mixing spatula later developed a blueing reaction in the air before he washed it). This was so effective that next time he does it he said he would do an additional soaking with a weaker lemon juice solution. It probably tastes better than glacial acetic acid.
That is what I read. It could be that your shrooms are bad but try this other method and see if it helps.
|By Underground_Shaman (Shaman) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 03:01 pm:|
Sometimes even hard stomachs can be affected differently by our funguys. Have you tried Papaya Extract. It's available at GNC-like stores and is "natural". I recommend that over any synthetics like Dramamine. I get the chewables and eat a handful (6-12 is plenty) with my dose. That should help with the nausea. Can we get a peek at what you are ingesting? I don't think it's rot, but you can never be too safe.
|By Cbee (Cbee) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 06:34 pm:|
what i have found to work for a friend of mine is to eat them fresh, her stomach deals with it better, she had done shrooms before (bought shrooms) and said she never wanted to do them again, because all 3 times she ended up puking. So i asked her to try my mushrooms, freshly picked, she did and nothin happened, she ate more then she had ever ate before and felt fine, also the weekend after that we all went shrooming with dried mushrooms someone acquired... she was afraid so i told her to just drink about 1 liter of water to help her stomach dissolve the mushrooms, think about how dry mushrooms are and putting that into your stomach
, talk about soaking up all your stomach acids.. anyways thats what i figure... something else you could try is a simple recipe I have came up with.
Put your bbq on low setting. In tin foil put a bit of butter (2-4tbsps), onions (1/2 an onion), some other spices and however many mushies you want. (I used 1/2 ounce) now toss the tin foil (all wrapped up) on the bbq for i dunno 10-15 minutes uptil you think the mushrooms are 1/2 cooked, and consume the mushrooms/butter/ onion mix over your favorite food... all my friends love this and we all get super high, I like to enjoy it with steak, but thats my opinion =) enjoy, just dont over cook the mushrooms or potency is lost
|By Bigtex (Bigtex) on Wednesday, October 03, 2001 - 02:03 am:|
Thanks for all yalls input. Iwill try to get some pics on here so yall can see wat i got so yall can help me more(I dont have a digi cam or a scanner) I dont think they r rotten either but im stumped. So in people with puking probs is it the active ingredients that make us puke or something in the shrooms themselves.
On this extraction thing could i just soak them in some crown royal for a couple of weeks and then drink the liquor. I would like to try this as my father and uncle and I are going to do them opening weekend of deer season and they would prolly like it this way better. There is nothing better than good friends the largest fire you can build, shrooms and a clear texas night sky.
|By Trippysmurf (Trippysmurf) on Wednesday, October 03, 2001 - 08:10 am:|
how exactly do u know if ur shrooms are rotten? some f d shrooms ive harvested are dark colored on the inside as i cut them up and put them in my honey jar straight off the cake, could they rot while growing?
|By Underground_Shaman (Shaman) on Wednesday, October 03, 2001 - 02:06 pm:|
In answer to your question, it is believed that the nausea is caused by other things in the fungi tissue besides psilocybin. Before trying an alcohol extraction, I would recommend that you try to make a tea/tincture if you haven't yet. This should help. extraction just requires so much starting material, whereas tea is easy. BTW, if making tea, use ground fungi. Remember to steep powder in hot, not boiling, H2O.
|By sean williams (Mynarsean) on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 06:48 am:|
a word of caution Tex.
psilocybin breaks down at 120 degrees F. so you definaty don't want to get them hot.
another thing to think about is allergies. you could be allergic to the spores. if that is the case, extration might be your best bet.
i have a friend that shroomed with me just last week. three hours into, his stomach expelled, not just puking. it was violent. and he only comsumed 3grams. but when he shrooms is allergies act up.
everclear boiled down, i think would be what to use ( unless there is a better way, of which i do not know ) but since it is grain alchol and "only" 190 proof you'll have to soak them longer than if you where to use 200 proof ethyl alcohol. i'm a texas man myself and down here i do not know where to get it.