|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 08:01 am: The Nook|
I don't know if anyone does this, I've never heard of it before. Being fed up with putting tape and foil over the holes in the lids (having dozens of jars), I figured out something that works really well; put a top with no holes over the top with the innoculating holes. Then screw the rim over both of those. When it comes time to innoculate, take off the rim and, being careful not to knock off the lid with the holes, remove the lid with no holes. Put the rim back on and innoculate. This works really well. I just did some quart jars on their side in a pressure cooker with no leakage. On a few jars the top lid got bent put it didn't soak the jar. Has anyone ever done this or heard of this. I like to think I'm the first but I'm probably not.
|By Vitticeps (Admin) on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 11:26 am: The Nook|
I've never heard of it, great idea. Just have to be really careful not to knock the bottom lid off.
|By Ashenms (Ashenms) on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 11:48 am: The Nook|
sounds like it would be more of a hasle plus theres that chance u could nock off the bottom lid no matter how well u got it down.
|By Mushy (Mushy) on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 03:31 pm: The Nook|
I have heard of one or two others doing this, and this is not something to be recommended to beginners, since you have to be much Cleaner about your procedures to do this successfully.
The reason for tape and foil and holes in most of the teks is to provide the typical readers of those teks (beginners) as nearly foolproof a process as possible.
Hell, you don't even need the Verm barrier, but it provides an additional layer of safety if you are not 100% contaminant free in your environment.
I would personally rather take the time to use the precautions than to spray my house with lysol, wear a face mask, shower 3 times a day and wear a biosuit into my HEPA pressure chamber when I need to innoculate.
Please don't take this the wrong way, certainly there are peeps who will take this tip and capitalize on it. But hopefully the first timer will not take this tip and try it, which will most likely result in failure and the loss of another potential lifetime Nookian.
|By Karna (Karna) on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 11:48 pm: The Nook|
Here's the real no tape or foil tek.
Don't use any tape or foil (!) Lift off the lid, inoculate, put it back on. Leave the band loose for air if you feel like. That's it.
|By jim brown (Shrhobbyist) on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 12:07 am: The Nook|
Actually Ash, it isn't a hassel, try it. Of course, I agree that it isn't for the beginer, it's great for those who can do it successfully. Mushy; there is no reason to shower all day and spray lysol all over if you can keep the bottom lid on, which can be done. And Karna, the use of innoculation holes is to avoid a high risk of contamination, which comes with removing the lid to innoculate. I forgot to write about one important step, especially if using pressure; On the upper/no-hole lid, use pliers to bend a tiny spot at one point on the edge. Make sure it is so small that water can't get past the rubber into the holes on the bottom lid. After sterilization, put the tip of a sharp knife under the bent part, twist the knife so the the bottom lid is pushed down on the jar and the upper lid pops off. Try it and see, if done properly it is much quicker and easier than tape and foil and presents the same risk of contamination. Maybe it's just me, but I hate tape and foil.
|By Saney (Saney) on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 12:39 pm: The Nook|
I hate foil.. Big hassle. But it works, and if it's not broke, why fix it?
|By Hongus (Hongus) on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 07:33 pm: The Nook|
i dont use tape at all.... only cover snuggly with foil and that does the trick for me...
i hate dealing with foil.