|P. Cubensis Growing Parameters||-|
|PF: Time scale||-|
|Fruiting Problems||54||12/13 10:44am|
|How long till shrooms grow after birth?||31||11/11 04:42am||whoever|
|My cakes must like to keep me waiting!||39||12/24 09:54pm||jared|
|SPEED TEK REVIEW PLEASE||12||01/08 06:05am||Maliki|
|Time between veil breakage to spore droppage?||8||01/26 08:05pm||Mr. Tambourine Man|
|Realistic timeline?||8||02/05 05:15pm||ggg|
|By Nan (Nanook) on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 05:25 am:|
TIME SCALE OF THE MUSHROOMS by PF
1. Spore inoculation to spore germination - within a
week, at 70 degrees Fahrenheit.
2. Spore germination to complete colonization of the cake
- about 2 to 3 weeks.
3. Colonization to fruiting cycle start - within 2 weeks.
4. The fruiting cycle lasts about 2 weeks. After the initial flush, the mycelium cake begins to turn blue and no more mushrooms form. If the cake is thoroughly cleaned of abhorts and stray fungus blobs after the initial fruiting and given the PF double ended cake casing tek, fruiting can be doubled or even tripled. All in all, the process takes from 4 - 6 weeks from spore
inoculation to fruiting.
|By Some Body (Texasshroomer) on Tuesday, September 11, 2001 - 10:23 pm:|
I just put some gulf coast mycelium cakes in a Perlite humidification Chamber. My question is how long will it take in the chamber before I see some shroom growth?
|By Ashenms (Ashenms) on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 - 10:52 am:|
It all depends on how long you let them set in the jar at 100% colonization if you birthed them as soon as they did depending on what strain i would say a week to 2 weeks. Then would be ready to harvest a week later.
|By Saluras (Saluras) on Thursday, September 13, 2001 - 12:37 am:|
usually after full colonization you tend to see growth 2-4 days later. the longer the are invitro the better, but i wanted to point this out, if i let them stay in the jars an extra 3days they still seem to take 1-2 days for the primordia to really get going.
if they are PF classic thats a different story, PF's seem to fruit much stronger when there is already primordia on the cakes.
|By pornderi Thompson (Pornderi) on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 05:05 am:|
Hi. it's my first posting. I have 4 pf cakes but no fruitng for two weeks just moderate Fluffy Myceliums on the Cakes. I'm using Fish Tank Bubbler and Saran Wraps to cover the top so the humidity cann't be too high. Temps are around 82-83 c all the time. Is it because the mycelium network is not well established ( it is 100% colonized ) or the conditions just arn't right? I've tried putting ice pack in there to lower the temp to about 78 c but with no results. I need some help, I know patience is the key but i feel very uncertain right now about getting any cubies at all. Somebody please help me.
|By relic (Relic) on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 08:31 am:|
it doesn't sound like they are drying out. i would increase the Fannings a bit. other than that you can only wait. keep the Humidity up and give them Light. good luck
|By Delta25 (Delta25) on Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 08:43 am:|
My b+ Flushed out nicely first flush after cleaning and dunking they looked horrid then they recovered and are nice and fluffy again my problem is it has been 2 weeks and no new pins how long does it usally take ?
and is there something i forgot or need to do to induce pinning
|By quote: (Quote) on Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 02:49 pm:|
assuming you are giving them the proper conditions to induce pinning,
light , infrequent air exchanges, warmth, etc.
then all you can do is wait.
|By trent (Cali_Sk8r) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 09:05 am:|
After cleaning off a cake after a first flush, and then dunking it for 18 hours, i put my cakes into a Perlite Humidified Terrarium and Double-end cased them. How long before they should start Turning White, and how long is too long, for them to still be bluish. They've only been in for a day but they still look the same so I figured i had better check up =) thanks
|By quote: (Quote) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 02:18 pm:|
give them a few days, they'll start to get new growth.
|By nick waters (Nickobod) on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 10:01 pm:|
I inoculated my jars 4 weeks ago. The mycelium appears to be fully colonized on the surface, but no pinners are showing. I was wondering if it would help to transfer them to a terrarium to encourage pin growth.
|By Brad (Raze) on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 10:32 pm:|
Make sure they're getting lots of light
|By quote: (Quote) on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 10:36 pm:|
actually, one usually gets better pin formation for first flush by delaying birthing until one sees several small pins while still invitro [in the jar.]
at 4 weeks, you're about due any day to see the first pins,
so i'd advise being patient a few more days.
what strain are you growing ?
how long have you been giving them light ?
|By Underground_Shaman (Shaman) on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 10:38 pm:|
It can take a week or two to fully colonize the inside of the cake. In a week or so, you can cold shock the jars, and/or dunk them overnight in cold water in the fridge. Keep the terrarium at around 70-75F and you should see pins in a week or two.
|By nick waters (Nickobod) on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 01:43 am:|
well, thanks a lot guys. I appreciate your help. I'm working on amazonian and equadorian. They are exposed to light for at least 2 hours a day( when I'm around the house) I'm getting really excited to see these beauties in all their glory, because it is the first time i've tried to grow mushrooms. Hopefully everything will go as planned up until harvest time.
|By Snoopy (Snoopy) on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 02:07 am:|
If you've gotten this far I bet you'll do just fine. I have found that the EQ's pin really easy and will sneak right up on yah so be watchful and good luck!
|By onediadem (Onediadem) on Saturday, December 01, 2001 - 05:12 am:|
Well, My jars are looking real good, srong rhizmorphic patches ranging from 2-4". The only problem I see, is the stalled growth. I cracked the lids a little, and the temp is 86 degrees. No contams, just slow. I have no Idea what strain these are. Think they are thru or need some more time? I have 9 pint jars going. Think cause te are pints they need more time? I am way woozy from pain meds, and am a little lost right now.
Anyhoo, thanksfor the input,
live long, pj
|By quote: (Quote) on Saturday, December 01, 2001 - 01:43 pm:|
pints do take considerably longer.
|By God O Mushies (Toadstool_God) on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 04:56 am:|
I just ordered my spores from Pf. I bought the PF strain as well as Mazateca. I am goin to use vermiculite and ground brown rice for the substrate and Im planning on using the Quote Mycro Tek were you expose the jars to light throughout the colonazation process to get early invitro pinning and instead of birthing you leave em in. I have a few questions for anyone who has tried this method. How long roughly would it normally take from inoculation to pinning and fruiting in jars for both strains? Is the substrate formula given in the pf tek guide on the pf website a good one for this tek of growing or does anyone else have a tried and true one? Im planning on eating my mushies fresh without drying. My normal dose is 4 dried grams. How much should one eat when wet. This tek mostly produces abhorts and early mushies..will this make a difference in the dose I should take? Look forward also to hearing response's from anyone who has succesfully used this tek before. Thanks.
|By quote: (Quote) on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 05:28 am:|
you should have pinning by 3 weeks, and be able to harvest first flush about 7-10 days later.
i use 1/2 c. verm., 1/4 ground brown rice and 1/4 c. water per jar, the pf max formula.
4 grams wet = ~ 40 wet.
take about 35 wet, to compensate for increased potency of aborts/primordia.
|By Rick (Npno) on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 04:54 am:|
i have a question my cake has been in the fruiting chamber at about 68F for about 5 days now, i'm impatient and would like to know roughly how much longer it will be
the cake has things that look like pins sticking out of it everywhere but they are white and fuzzy there is a hell of a lot of these things
|By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 05:25 am:|
Those things sticking out could be rhizomorphs, they often times knot up and form mushroom pins.
Make sure to give plenty of fannings and you should be seeing pins soon.... prolly within 5 days.
Patience, my son.
|By Hatcher (Hatcher) on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 07:42 am:|
Sounds like you're doin' OK, once they take off it'll blow your mind. Shoot for 7 to 10 degrees higher tho..
|By kobayashi (Impalerzz) on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 05:35 pm:|
The mushroom teaches patience.
|By Snoopy (Snoopy) on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 06:56 pm:|
Rick the best part is yet to come: When you leave your house for a few hours and come back and see that your mushrooms have grown an inch. I swear it never gets old.
|By Rick (Npno) on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 07:50 pm:|
thanks once again guys
|By Chick (Schroomchick) on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 10:39 pm:|
Wow, I am at that exact stage right now...I keep on expecting the flush to start any minute...there are a ton of pins, and everything smells like a fresh bouquet of schrooms, but as of yet, none have started really growing...any day now. So good luck on your first flush!!!
|By Brettiejams (Brettiejams) on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 11:31 pm:|
Are you employing the double ended casing tek, Chick?
|By Chick (Schroomchick) on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 02:37 am:|
I have a flatcake and a few still in jar form...so the flatcakes are cased, but the 1/4 pints aren't, everything is going very well...as a matter of fact, some primordia are forming into mushrooms, it just is taking longer than one would hope. But it's not behind schedule... I innoculated on Jan. 4.