From jad@ckuxb.att.com Tue Dec 15 16:00:03 1992 Received: from att-out.att.com by css.itd.umich.edu (5.67/2.2) id AA10916; Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:00:02 -0500 Message-Id: <9212152100.AA10916@css.itd.umich.edu> From: jad@ckuxb.att.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:55 EST To: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu Status: O X-Status: Article 17829 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa Path: cbnewsl!cbnewsk!att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!uvaarpa!murdoch!Turing.ORG!jad From: jad@Turing.ORG (John DiNardo) Subject: Part 26, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Message-ID: <1992Dec4.232418.2064@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy.jfk Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1992 23:24:18 GMT Lines: 120 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) JIM MARRS: By the way, I want to extend my compliments to Jerry Policoff. Jerry, I have read your articles for years and years and years, and I have used them very extensively in my research. My compliments to you, sir. JERRY POLICOFF: Thank you. GARY NULL: Gentlemen, you're going to find out something brand new about the Kennedy Assassination. Next week, and on that show -- because you've both made substantial contributions of new information recently -- I will have you conferenced in to listen to the new information. And it's going to shake people up when they hear this information, never before discussed or written about. No one has found out about it. That is coming up. And I think it will put a cap on this whole thing. Whether anything is ever done about it -- who knows. It's an amazing thing. You write a story. You research. You think it's really revolutionary. It will give new insights which should conduct new investigations. And then it comes, and the media doesn't do a thing. And it all goes by the bye. But we're going to do it in any case. By the way, I was just handed a note by our producer who has been working non-stop. I mean, he's putting in like 100-hour weeks on this [investigation]. He is Kevin McCrary, and he says that L. Fletcher Prouty is going to appear on our program later this week. So, he'll be able to tell us, in his own words, what he knows and what new information he knows, and new information which he has not revealed before. And I'm going to ask you, Jim Marrs if you'll make yourself available tomorrow, because we did not get to part two, which was the means, the motives and the opportunities ..... JIM MARRS: Okay. Can I make one quick comment about the Garrison thing. At the time that the Garrison investigation and trial of Clay Shaw was going on, I was watching it very, very closely as a newsman. I was trying to be objective and I was trying to really look at it and see what was happening. And, of course, he said: "I've got a conspiracy by the tail. I've got individuals here. I'm filing charges on them. I'm taking them before a grand jury." In other words, he was taking them through the normal processes of law. Well, the national media elements within there, and even the Attorney General of the United States, were saying: "This guy is a nut. He's a fantacist. There's nothing there. He hasn't got a case." And, quite frankly, I didn't know who to believe. Today, you've got twenty years of hindsight, and you look back and you can see that MOST of what Jim Garrison ..... and I'm like Jerry Policoff. I do not want to just blanketly defend Garrison, because there were a lot of problems with his prosecution in New Orleans, not all of which was his own doing. But, you look back after twenty years of hindsight and we find that most of what he was telling us: Guy Bannister, David Ferrie, the connection to Oswald, the anti-Castro Cubans and the plotting that was going on in New Orleans in the summer of 1963 -- all of that has held up. It's historical fact. Even the House Select Committee on Assassinations was forced to conclude that most of that was substantiated. So now we KNOW who was telling the truth and who was lying. GARY NULL: Well, in point of fact, the judge and the jury said that when Clay Shaw won his case and Garrison was, in effect, put into the closet forever after that, and told to shut up, and the media did a hatchet-job on him, he didn't know that eleven members of his own staff were CIA plants. JIM MARRS: That's right. GARY NULL: He didn't know that Clay Shaw's counsel had every note, everything that they [Garrison] needed. And also, Clay Shaw lied. The man perjured himself. And he did so with the help of his CIA contacts, because later it did come out that Clay Shaw did, in FACT, work for the CIA. That is a matter of historical FACT. And the jury said that they would have convicted him had they known that. So... JIM MARRS: That's right. Also, he lied when he said that the did not know David Ferrie and had had no contact with him, because there is now, circulating among the research community, photographs of Clay Shaw and David Ferrie together at a party in New Orleans. GARY NULL: Yes. So, clearly, Garrison was right. The media was wrong. The Government participated in the massive cover-up at that level, and one very courageous prosecuting attorney was, unfortunately, disgraced at the time. And the American Public should know that. The man whom he brought to trial was a LIAR and was complicitous in much of the plot, and the Government knew it AT the time. And so, we have to be aware of this. I want to thank you very much, Jerry Policoff and Jim Marrs, for being with us. This has been a continuation of our series, Hidden Agendas: Conspiracies, Cover-ups and Lies. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please assist in disseminating it by posting it to other bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass-media's thirty-year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo