From jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU Thu Oct 7 15:13:48 EDT 1993 Article: 32017 of alt.conspiracy Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa Path: murdoch!hopper!jad From: jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (John DiNardo) Subject: Part 9, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Message-ID: Followup-To: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk Keywords: Part 9, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: U.Va. Internet Public Access Project Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 15:53:40 GMT Lines: 167 ____ ____ ____ ____---- ----____ ____---- ----____ ____ ---- ---- ---- T H E P E O P L E'S S P E L L B R E A K E R ____ ____ ____ ---- ----____ ____---- ----____ ____---- ---- ---- ---- DATE OF PRINTING PRICE: __ CENTS THE NEWSPAPER FOR THE PEOPLE OF [your territory; example:] EASTERN OKLAHOMA * * * * * MORNING EDITION * * * * * EDITOR: John DiNardo PUBLISHER: [your name (optional)] ________________________________________ From the free airwaves of The People's Pacifica Radio Network station: WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 ________________________________________ Part 9, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GARY NULL: I'm talking to you on location. I am two thousand miles away from New York City. In a quest for new information and new evidence in this investigation, I took a plane late last night and I am now in the southern part of the United States. When this investigation is completed, I'll be returning to New York. So please understand that the technical quality will not be what it normally is because I am talking to you from a telephone and not out of our regular broadcast studios. Let's go directly to the evidence at hand and let's start analyzing this evidence and putting it together, piece by piece. I'm going to go directly to you, David. Let's begin with some of the evidence. A major set of circumstances occurred with the autopsy that we explained. And I want to come back to Doctor Wecht on that, but I first want to talk about the fact that the body itself, when it left Dallas on the airplane, did not have the various [surgical] procedures done on it that were apparent when it arrived in Bethesda. And also, the fact that (and this is a VERY important piece of evidence) THREE SEPARATE CASKETS had entered that hospital. DAVID LIFTON: I said two. GARY NULL: Two. But there was the circumstance of the same one being seen twice: the bronze casket. DAVID LIFTON: Separate entries of two caskets. That's correct, according to the evidence. GARY NULL: But the Public was led to believe that there was only one casket, that the casket that the President's body was put into arrived at Bethesda Naval Hospital hours later, and that the autopsy was performed. And that was the end of the story. That's what the Warren Commission was told. That's what we have been led to believe. In point-of-fact, another casket, that actually contained the body of the President, arrived. Give us the circumstances surrounding the arrival of that casket. What witnesses were there to acknowledge that another casket arrived, that it was not the bronze casket, and that the President's body was not in the same condition that it was in when it left Dallas. DAVID LIFTON: Well, now these are two separate issues that you're addressing here. One is the condition of the body and the other is the issue of multiple caskets. Which would you like me to address first? GARY NULL: Begin with the different caskets. DAVID LIFTON: What I was able to show in BEST EVIDENCE (and I obtained reports that had not been examined and, in fact, are not even in the National Archives, as far as the Warren Commission Investigation goes) is the report of the military casket team. In that casket team report (and I interviewed the men who were on the casket team) ..... Let's make sure we understand what the casket team is. These are the pall bearers, the honor guard that met Air Force One when it arrived on the night of November 22nd at Andrews Air Force Base. This is a multi-service casket team consisting of Navy, Air Force, Army and Coast Guard, and headed by a man named Lieutenant Samuel Byrd who subsequently died of wounds incurred in Vietnam. These men described to me (in telephone interviews and, in one case, in an in-person interview in the year 1967; and it's hard to believe that it was so long ago: twenty-five years ago) what occurred at the front of Bethesda Naval Hospital when the Navy ambulance pulled up. That ambulance pulled up and they tried to follow that ambulance from seven o'clock when it arrived at the front of Bethesda until eight o'clock when they finally brought the coffin in. There is an hour, sort of a missing time in there. Now, we can quibble over whether it's forty-five minutes, thirty-five minutes. But there's a serious incident in there where they attempt to follow the Navy ambulance, lose the ambulance, and are told by their superiors that they have followed the decoy. There is a decoy ambulance. NONE of this made it into the Warren Commission Report. It's ALL on my telephone interview tapes. And their written report says that they brought the big casket, which we all saw off-loaded on TV, and the one that is supposed to contain the body .... they brought that in at eight o'clock. That is their official written report dated December (oh, I don't know) fifth or tenth, 1963. Now, contrary to that evidence, I actually located the witnesses who were at the back of the hospital, and who participated in off-loading the vehicle and the casket in which the body actually was in. And that was a black hearse which arrived at about ten minutes `til seven, Eastern Time. That black hearse had two men in O.R. smocks and a group of civilians. A shipping casket was brought out of that hearse. Dennis David, who is in Chapter 25 of my book, described the scene of his men off-loading that casket. Furthermore, I have documentary evidence, which is in my book (it's actually at the Gerald Ford Library now), that the arrival occurred at 6:50, apparently. This is the shipping casket. It was brought into the hospital. That shipping casket was opened by Paul O'Connor who was the medical technician at Bethesda Naval Hospital. Inside that shipping casket, according to O'Connor, the President's body was in a body bag. He unzipped the body bag. That statement was accepted and published by the House Select Committee: the fact that he opened the President's body bag; that the body was in a body bag. That's the information that the body did not arrive in the same casket that it left Dallas in, even though, of course, the big casket arrives at the front of the hospital. Now, it so happens that the big casket enters twice: once at eight o'clock, as I've just described in the casket scene. However, it also enters at 7:14. That casket entry is documented in FBI documents provided by FBI agents Seibert and O'Neill. So we have three casket entries: the one in the shipping casket at 6:50 when, apparently, the body arrived. Then there's this covert entry of the big casket while the casket team is chasing around looking for it. And that's apparently when the body was put back into the big casket so that they could have an official casket opening at 8:00. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For those readers who are concerned about the highly treasonous crimes routinely perpetrated by our U.S. Government officials who are supposed to be public servants of the highest rectitude, please contact a public interest law group that has valiantly filed lawsuits charging the CIA with crimes of treason, narcotics trafficking, terrorism and murder. Please write or phone: William Davis The Christic Institute 8773 Venice Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90034 (310)287-1556 John DiNardo