From jad@ckuxb.att.com Ukn Jan 8 12:06:31 1993 Received: from att-out.att.com by css.itd.umich.edu (5.67/2.2) id AA17190; Fri, 8 Jan 93 12:06:29 -0500 Message-Id: <9301081706.AA17190@css.itd.umich.edu> To: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 11:53:30 EST From: jad@ckuxb.att.com Status: RO X-Status: Article 18917 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa,misc.activism.progressive Subject: Part 2, LURE TO WAR: Bush Sucks Saddam Into Kuwait [Stockwell] Message-ID: <1993Jan7.221147.18683@mont.cs.missouri.edu> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Keywords: LURE TO WAR: Bush Sucks Saddam Into Kuwait [Stockwell] Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: pencil.cs.missouri.edu Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host Approved: map@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Lines: 158 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) JOHN STOCKWELL: And then the whole world waited, on the 15th and 16th, for the kickoff of this great modern war. Now some people waited, or had been waiting, longer than others. I found myself in the position, albeit a country boy from Texas who grew up in Africa, but you know -- reading books and having seen a little bit of this stuff from the National Security Council level -- I had been able to predict, nine months ahead of time, that the U.S. would invade Panama. And this was not a shot in the dark. This was an analysis of the United States and George Bush -- for whom I worked at the end of the "Angola Secret War", where I was the task force commander for a subcommittee of the National Security Council, and he was the CIA Director responsible for fending off the Congress. Let me hasten to say that this is a very nice man to be around. He's considerate. He's personable. He has high positive energy. If your child gets sick, even if you're way down on his staff, you'll get a postcard in the mail very promptly, saying: "Very sorry about Johnny" -- shaking hands with people, smiling and remembering names; a considerate, decent person at the human level. And then, of course, he has rationales for what he does, and we're going to be talking about these things. But I gave speeches at American University in November, and then at the House of Commons in England in early December. Again, C-SPAN managed to get a film of this, a video, and they played it on national television eight times when the invasion occurred, because in those speeches, I had predicted the invasion and analyzed why. Then, about a year ago, I predicted this war. And again, this was not a shot in the dark. This was a cold, sober, careful analysis of the United States: where it was, and why it would need a war; and of George Bush: and why he would take the nation into war. Now that's what I want to go through tonight, if I possibly can, is to give you all the essential elements and understanding of how I was able to make those predictions, so that you will be able to predict the next war. Because there certainly will be another one after this one, unless we can intervene and break the cycles, and make a profound change in the United States System. My point is that we know how these things work. It isn't magic. It isn't classified. It isn't secret. Since the Vietnam War, the Establishment -- the Military Establishment, as I call it -- Eisenhower called it the Military-Industrial Complex -- the Military Establishment, which is the very powerful central engine in our society, in our permanent War Complex, has been working to erase the stigma of the Vietnam War and has been telling us that it was doing that. President Reagan came into office saying that he would teach the nation how to fight war again, to make us stand tall -- and then, of course, pouring huge resources into the Military, and glamorizing the Military, bombing Libya, invading Grenada, and [waging] low-intensity warfare against Nicaragua, but rehearsing for the invasion of Nicaragua. Interestingly enough, they were prohibited by the Military, by the Pentagon, by the Defense Department, from invading Nicaragua, actually, because the [American] People were solidly against it. And so, the Secretary of Defense, in public speeches, said: "No, not with my Defense Department, unless you can persuade the People to support it." They couldn't make their sale, and we were spared the horror of our doing this thing on Nicaragua. Now at the same time, through these years, people like Harry Summers, a colonel, teaching at the War College, writing his book on strategy, analyzing the Vietnam War for the failures of the Vietnam War, not apologetic, not that it was a wrong war. Not at all! He was saying that what we'd done wrong was we had failed to orchestrate the war and to organize and motivate the American People to support it; and that it went on too long, and we didn't win, and we didn't go in decisively enough with a major military strike. The Military has always maintained that if they could have gone in, all out, they would have won in Vietnam very efficiently, and that they were hamstrung by the politicians, and were prevented from fighting a good war. Dean Rusk, when he came out of office and retired, he said that the next war cannot be fought in the eye of the television camera with the Public second-guessing the generals as they're making decisions on the battlefields. Now, you'll notice the interesting thing about that is, One: that he was wrong. He didn't understand that they could so captivate the nation that they could fight the war in the eye of the television camera. But it was a censored television camera, with the media playing along in the censorship. But perhaps the most significant thing about his statement was the fact that he was absolutely, blithely confident that there would BE another war. Most of us were presuming that, because of the trauma of the Vietnam War, we had learned that these things are not cool, that they don't work, that we should never do them again. They maintained -- the Military -- that if the United States had gone in massively in Vietnam, with nukes, if they had to, and won in a few months time, the American People would have supported it, and there would have been no trauma. General Gavlett[sp], in the South Command in Panama, when they were trying to invade Nicaragua, he was saying: "The American People love a good bash, but you've got to get it over with in about six weeks time or it'll go sour on you. You can't afford to have the war still going on while the body bags start coming home." Now since then, as part of this preparation for this war, this enormously successful preparation for this war -- leading the nation into war and restoring the Military Complex -- they've been preparing for greater control of our society. Now this is where it gets a little creepy: They've been laying down a series of laws. I don't have time in the lecture to go through them, but as a matter of fact, I do list all of them that I was aware of in one chapter of this book that's coming out now [THE PRAETORIAN GUARD] -- the National Security laws, which work to give them control of the Press, control of passports; they can stop Jane Fondas and Seymour Hershes from traveling and reporting from places like Hanoi, or My Lai scandals, and such. Seventy percent of the Federal judges have been or will be appointed by President Reagan and President Bush to enforce their National Security laws. FEMA was created here in California, at California's Special Training Institute, under Governor Reagan, with his support, then converted into FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, with all of its plans to suspend the Constitution, declare martial law and incarcerate however many people they have to to establish rigid control of this country. Meanwhile, they've been working on an utterly phony Drug War, and the truth is coming out now. [This drug war] is so preposterous that William F. Buckley has joined with Anthony Lewis in publishing a book together to protest the Drug War with its phony rationales. But the point of this Drug War is that they have obliterated the Bill of Rights. Under the Drug War, they now have the right to pick up people off the street, based on the signature of a DEA officer saying that you're a drug distributor, with a judge rubber-stamping the thing, without trial, and they can take your house, your car, whatever you've got, as well as taking the money with which you would hire an attorney to defend yourself. [They now can] blow off your protections under the laws: [the principle of] innocent until proven guilty, and all these basic American traditions, as they work to establish their National Security State with what is evolving into a World Security State, instead of just a national system. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The America Public is evidently in dire need of the truth, for when the plutocracy feeds us sweet lies in place of the bitter truth that would evoke remedial action by the People, then we are in peril of sinking inextricably into despotism. So, please post the episodes of this ongoing series to computer bulletin boards, and post hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. The need for concerned people alerting their neighbors to overshadowing dangers still exists, as it did in the era of Paul Revere. That need is as enduring as society itself. John DiNardo