From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Sat Dec 20 03:36:44 2003): you had a server? thanks for telling us all assgoblin _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From macsimski (Fri Dec 19 23:27:50 2003): due to filtering by my isp (upc netherlands), my hole server is offline, so the nextstep archive on simski.org is down till further notice. i'm in the process of finding another place to host my hotline server. sorry simski _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Thu Dec 18 08:34:50 2003): "All your base are belong to us" What you say? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak.dead (Thu Dec 18 08:09:23 2003): "I search AIX for Apple Network Server 700, to me have told that at you it(he) is, prompt where it(he) lays? sorry, I use the translator/" _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Wed Dec 17 22:37:06 2003): Well, I'm going offline for the holidays starting now. I'll see you all again in January. Merry Christmas! _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J - 15 days (Mon Dec 15 21:14:46 2003): Electronics final exam grade = 84% _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J - 15 days (Mon Dec 15 06:11:25 2003): so i got an email from an actual person at microsoft today this was my response. i had filled out a support page trying to get the cocksmokers to fix my msn messenger name from email address not verified and recieved a bullshit response saying it cant be done because msn hotmail accounts are already verified so what the fuck. i decided to throw in a few shots ok so then why does my msn messenger name say "address not verified" thats so bloody dumb obviously its verified since i signed up many years ago through the origional owners of hotmail before this gay ass company bought it and ruined it.. i do not use this email but i would appreciate it very much if one of you could fix that for me also make it so junkmail doesnt count as my storage space since obviously i dont want it or it wouldnt be in my junkmail folder. k k thanks fix this shit. I am already pissed off that i HAD to buy a license for this shitty product when i purchased your laptop and i dont even use it so does that mean i can sell it until i make the money back that i paid for a license i will never use? or is that illegal? personally i think your market domination is a bunch of shit forcing me to buy something i dont want or need. Why do you do that? if half the population of this planet wasnt a bunch of retarded monkeys you guys would ahve been out of business years ago. In all worlds except the computer world if something DOESNT work people purchase another product that does, however as previously stated people are retarded monkeys. so please let me know where i can return my license for the product i am very unhappy with and fix my msn messenger name and make it so junkmail doesnt count towards my 2 megs of storage or forward my email. Thanks Sincerely, Also i have not agreed to the msn terms of service so i do not feel i should be held to them since this account was made before your companies purchase of this site. Or is this what that is about? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Mon Dec 15 04:51:10 2003): khemfusion: firestorm do you have msn? Firestorm.PBG: FUCK YOU khemfusion: haha khemfusion: all the women are on msn, you have to go there to get any woman on internet action Firestorm.PBG: internet action doesnt go anywhere Firestorm.PBG: and no wonder women are so stupid khemfusion: man, I'm going out on a date in real life thanks to msn khemfusion: well, actually thanks to me khemfusion: but MSN was used for communication Firestorm.PBG: 3rd date you go to her place Firestorm.PBG: she drops her pants Firestorm.PBG: "I didnt want this to be wierd, but I have a... Firestorm.PBG: PENIS!!!!" khemfusion: uh no khemfusion: I know her in real life already <<< guest has joined >>> <<< 08:38:25 PM >>> <<< guest is now known as walph >>> <<< walph has left >>> <<< 08:46:45 PM >>> Mr J: haha Mr J: yea firestorm you had it backwards Mr J: khem drops his pants and goes Mr J: i didntr want this to be weird but i have a Mr J: VAGINA! Mr J: and then they dyke out Mr J: happy ending i think not! Mr J: theyd make crazy radioactive babies Mr J: and all their babies dicks will fall off and they will grow vaginas just like what happened to khem Mr J: and eventually the wolrd will be filled with dickless zombies Mr J: that eat pussy _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Mon Dec 15 04:46:10 2003): fucking telus went down or something and then i had like 20 leechers on the site _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Mon Dec 15 01:59:55 2003): heh.. it's my exgirlfriend no offense taken here :p _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Mon Dec 15 01:38:43 2003): Firestorm.PBG: netfreak is downloading black gay men VCDs again Adam.Atomical: the movie is for my girlfriend Adam.Atomical: I usually like to buy people what they like _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Sun Dec 14 12:31:24 2003): dude whats wrong with your connection? it takes 2 minuites to connect. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Sun Dec 14 06:36:20 2003): netfreak, your name was still suffixed ".zz" so I assumed that you were still asleep. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Ciricon (Sun Dec 14 06:35:54 2003): Bunch of Kludges. That's all Microsoft is. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Sun Dec 14 05:53:15 2003): is this a bad thing? http://www.google.com/microsoft http://google.com/unclesam? also check out this article http://news.com.com/2009-1032_3-1020641.html Welcome to microsoft windows. To browse the web simply go into the "my internet folder" heh seriously what the fuck microsoft has some marketing genius' make people beleive microsoft windows is the internet and tehy wont know any alternatives _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak.zz (Sun Dec 14 02:22:00 2003): "get ur lazy butt outa bed, geesh." uh orb, i was probably at work two hours before you woke up _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Sat Dec 13 20:14:56 2003): http://www.cbc.ca Saddam Hussein has been captured. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vrv (Sat Dec 13 17:19:53 2003): greetings again anybody home? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Sat Dec 13 09:57:59 2003): fix the time on your server _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Sat Dec 13 09:57:03 2003): youre the one entertained by cock sites, not me 0wn3d _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From og-netfreak (Sat Dec 13 08:26:12 2003): shutup cock gobbler _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Sat Dec 13 08:26:04 2003): I bet you were _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sat Dec 13 07:28:37 2003): well i was certainly entertained when i saw my site is linked to by http://www.larger-penis.org/2/better-male-orgasms.html _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From atomcomputer (Fri Dec 12 09:48:31 2003): nice shot ;-) _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From is this the end for mr J? (Fri Dec 12 09:29:51 2003): http://mezzanotte.ath.cx/screenshots _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Fri Dec 12 06:09:42 2003): i guess so. the software used for the video editing card called Toast _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From TheBrick (Thu Dec 11 21:32:27 2003): NEWTEK Toast? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Thu Dec 11 18:29:15 2003): eh?? might have been the Video Toast software. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From TheBrick (Thu Dec 11 14:20:35 2003): -> netfreak What was that Amiga app you were looking for? I'm in the library today and I can dig out some good ol' stuff. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Thu Dec 11 07:43:36 2003): err... x86 do RISC, rather _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Wed Dec 10 06:44:22 2003): first of all, i'm pretty much banning access from all french internet providers. secondly, nobody downloads from here unless they contribute. i need hardware or very rare stuff. copies of irix are acceptable donations for access. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From atomcomputer (Wed Dec 10 06:41:07 2003): why do didn t creat a guest login with a very law brandwidth ? I am french and I can't pay by blue card / paypal : I haven't that and ... Is it possible to upload you Irix Files ? I can give you a member login on my server with 8 Gbs of Sun and Sgi files, lot of OS for mac and Pc ( some in french) can you answer by mail ? Thanks vieuxordis @ apinc . org _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Wed Dec 10 06:29:27 2003): its still stuck at emulating a 68040 with 8.1 under basilisk. 86k do RISC? yeah right. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Evil radio.cold (Wed Dec 10 04:14:07 2003): Hey guys, Im looking for a mac emulator for PC along with whatever the best ROM is for it. And is Mac emulation on windows still stuck on 8.1? or have they taken it up to 9.1 now? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From jazzin (Sun Dec 7 16:52:25 2003): enjoy! _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sat Dec 6 20:20:54 2003): lol this is going to be fun _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From jazzin (Sat Dec 6 20:20:34 2003): the file is 1268.3 Meg for the complete whitley strieber dreamland shows with last update 03-12-06 will take some days to upload, (ugh!) _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Sat Dec 6 18:05:20 2003): ok! _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From jazzin (Sat Dec 6 18:05:03 2003): oki here we go! _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sat Dec 6 18:04:10 2003): sure i'll take em _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From jazzin (Sat Dec 6 18:03:51 2003): super duper alien information _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak.zz (Sat Dec 6 17:20:26 2003): what is that? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From jazzin (Sat Dec 6 16:02:14 2003): anyone interested in the COMPLETE whitley strieber DREAMLAND shows + extras (over 1 gig in 32Kbs mps!) if so scream out in the news, nice server btw from the good ols hl days, still up amazing! _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Fri Dec 5 03:15:11 2003): 19:21:40 Firestorm.PBG: G = gay 19:21:42 G: Gay gay gay. 19:21:47 Firestorm.PBG: gay gay gay 19:21:49 G: Leslie is gay. 19:22:07 Firestorm.PBG: is that why she likes netfreak? 19:22:09 G: That is the most dangerous man in this prison. You know why? 'Cause i control the underwear. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Thu Dec 4 04:55:20 2003): 20:56:44 Firestorm.PBG: mirror mirror on the wall, who's the gayest one of all? 20:56:45 G: The uneducated black man is only a burden on the society. 21:00:33 Firestorm.PBG: what the fuck, you spear chucker 21:00:35 G: You talk to you. 21:00:39 Firestorm.PBG: you talk to me 21:00:41 G: You talk to gays. 21:00:48 Firestorm.PBG: I dont talk to netfreak 21:00:50 G: You talk to netfreak. 21:01:25 Firestorm.PBG: take that back you bastard! 21:01:26 G: You talk to you. 21:01:34 Firestorm.PBG: you talk to gays 21:01:36 G: I dont talk to gays. 21:01:45 Firestorm.PBG: you talk to Mr J, and he's gay 21:01:47 G: Gay gay gay. 21:01:54 Firestorm.PBG: yeah 21:01:56 G: A rape victim? Yeah her name is j. 21:02:09 Firestorm.PBG: 0wn3d 21:02:11 G: 2 To the power of 3 is 8. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Thu Dec 4 04:55:15 2003): no I didnt _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Thu Dec 4 04:44:42 2003): um yeah you like posted that yesterday _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Thu Dec 4 04:44:20 2003): http://www.playingsafely.co.uk/12stisofchristmas/12-STIs.html _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Thu Dec 4 04:13:12 2003): G: You talk to you. i didnt do it _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Thu Dec 4 00:52:05 2003): Firestorm.PBG: knobgobbler G: Real intelligent, moron. haha try and teach it stupid shit thats what you get. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Wed Dec 3 10:01:42 2003): Mr J: does netfreak lick balls? G: Netfreak is not the fag of all fags and netfreak is a fucking fag and netfreak is a flaming homosexual. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Wed Dec 3 10:01:02 2003): G: Is netfreak cool? netfreak: yes G: Yes of course you are. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Wed Dec 3 09:45:17 2003): og-netfreak: mrj is not netfreak because mrj is a fucking fag and netfreak is so cool G: Yes i would say netfreak is the fag of all fags and netfreak is the fag of all fags and netfreak is the god of all fags. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Wed Dec 3 09:43:52 2003): G: Hahaha firestorm masterbates to his sister changing her tampons and then he eats her out. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Wed Dec 3 09:38:17 2003): Mr J: netfreak likes it in the poop chute G: Is that how he likes it. Mr J: i would assume so G: Would you say that he is a turd burgler? Mr J: yes i would _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Wed Dec 3 09:11:34 2003): netfreak: would you say that mrj sucks cock? G: You said that. netfreak: i know, but is it true? G: Is that how he likes it. netfreak: probably. i don't tend to get involved in his homosexual shit G: I said he shit his pants. netfreak: he probably did that too G: I would say he did. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Wed Dec 3 09:09:53 2003): fuck i almost blew up my car tonight.. was shifting from 3rd to 4th and like wtf i ended up in 2nd almost redlined _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Wed Dec 3 08:21:48 2003): Mr J: what about mushrooms though? anyone wanna eat some mush? G: What about netfreak. Mr J: i dont think netfreak would like mush hes kind of a homo G: Would you say that he is a cockless fiend. Mr J: yes i certainly would _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Wed Dec 3 04:16:04 2003): 20:22:07 Firestorm.PBG: Mr J is gay, all the way 20:22:10 G: Yes he certainly is. 20:22:16 Firestorm.PBG: so is netfreak 20:22:17 G: Yes he certainly is. 20:22:26 Firestorm.PBG: concurred _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Tue Dec 2 15:09:30 2003): G: You are an idiot. Mr J: ouch that hurt me deeply G: Haha we love you man. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Tue Dec 2 13:21:16 2003): http://uspoliticsforum.com/adam/movies/starwars/ The quality is crap, because I lost the original, and the svcd I burned.. had to bring it back in from vhs _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Tue Dec 2 09:45:01 2003): og-netfreak: netfreak is a genius and mrj is a cockgrabbing bitchshit G: Netfreak is a shitclown assmonkey. Mr J: hahah G: Hahah firestorms a fucking homo. Mr J: oh fuck G: The first thing i learned when i came here was that firestorms a fucking retard. Mr J: thats news worthy _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Tue Dec 2 09:41:19 2003): Mr J: the first thing i learned when i came here was that firestorms a fucking homo G: Hahah firestorms a fucking retard. Mr J: whats the first thing you learned when you came here? G: The first thing i learned when i came here was that firestorms a fucking retard. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Tue Dec 2 09:40:37 2003): Mr J: whats the first thing you learned when you came here? G: The first thing i learned when i came here was that firestorms a fucking retard. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Tue Dec 2 09:31:30 2003): 01:38:19 Firestorm.PBG: 01:38:06 Mr J: and then it says something retarded 01:38:19 Firestorm.PBG: 01:38:07 G: And thats all it kept saying. 01:38:21 G: And then it says something retarded. 01:38:25 Firestorm.PBG: amen 01:38:27 G: Oh musta been my machine or something because after about 2 weeks it crashed and wouldnt load. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Tue Dec 2 06:15:48 2003): sheeeit http://www.top500.org/lists/2003/11/3/ _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Mon Dec 1 09:34:02 2003): http://www.anysonglyrics.com/lyrics/t/triumph/i-keed.htm _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From jokki. (Sun Nov 30 22:31:57 2003): Ecstasy may be used to help rape victims http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1091729,00.html _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Sun Nov 30 04:38:31 2003): Ÿberfag _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From khemical_fusion (Sun Nov 30 03:24:56 2003): Yeah adamn, I think her face is broken _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Sun Nov 30 02:23:26 2003): good reason, fag, son of a fag _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Sat Nov 29 06:29:13 2003): http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2445384485 _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Sat Nov 29 06:28:59 2003): youre more a fag, because youre a fag, fag _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Sat Nov 29 05:10:24 2003): Because looking at females, even if they're ugly makes me a fag. I think you're the fag. fag. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Fri Nov 28 02:52:01 2003): adam what the hell? fag _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Ishtar666 (Thu Nov 27 22:15:36 2003): Upped AIX 1.3 and Extras. This is the version for x86, including the patches to run on standard PC hardware. Unpatched, it only runs on Microchannel machines. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Thu Nov 27 19:31:27 2003): http://pix2.hotornot.com/pics/HQ/H8/HE/NM/N8NSBRRJNUVR.jpg _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Thu Nov 27 19:27:54 2003): So this morning a girl in my latin class asked the prof what 'happy birthday' is in latin. Then he burst into song, and they sang 'BONUS FETA AD ROBERTO!' to me. Oh what a day ;P _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Thu Nov 27 05:58:33 2003): you know it slut _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4-Heidrun (Thu Nov 27 05:21:05 2003): 20:41:24 netfreak: man 20:41:27 netfreak: i'm fuckin pissed 20:41:32 netfreak: fucking matches 20:41:34 netfreak: i need a lighter 20:44:23 netfreak: i think i'll buy one tonight 20:44:23 netfreak: couldnt light my fucking smoke 20:47:33 Firestorm.PBG: that's hard to believe since youre such a flamer and all 21:07:17 netfreak: its hard to believe you have testicles that sure hit deep. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Wed Nov 26 00:46:17 2003): that is pretty craZy _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Mon Nov 24 07:46:47 2003): og-netfreak: he'll be crazy enough to sleep with me og-netfreak: ERRR og-netfreak: she og-netfreak: fuck og-netfreak: damnit og-netfreak: i cant save myself on that one _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Mon Nov 24 07:30:47 2003): Q. How does Michael Jackson pick his nose? A. From a catalogue. Q: Have you heard about Michael Jackson's New Book? A: It's called "The In's and Out's of Child RearingÓ. Q. How do you know Michael Jackson is having a party? A. There are a bunch of tricycles in front of his house. Q: Why was Michael Jackson spotted at K-Mart? A: He heard boys' pants were half-off! Q. What's the difference between Mr. Potato Head and Michael Jackson? A. Michael Jackson has had more noses. Q. When is it bed time at Michael JacksonÕs house? A. When the big hand is on the little hand! Q. What do Michael Jackson and a jockey have in common? A. They both ride three year olds. Q. What's the worst stain to try and remove from a little boy's underpants? A. Michael Jackson's makeup. Q. What did the lady at the beach say to Michael Jackson? A. I believe youÕre in my son. Q. What's the difference between Michael Jackson and a grocery bag? A. One is white, plastic, and harmful to children, the other is used to carry groceries. Q. What does Michael Jackson consider a perfect 10? A. Two 5 year olds. Q: What's icky and in a baby's diaper? A: Michael Jackson's hand! Q: What do Michael Jackson and a Big Mac have in common? A: They're both 44 year old meat between 10 year old buns! Q: What's black on the inside, white on the outside, and comes in little cans? A: Michael Jackson! Q: Why did Pepsi fire Michael Jackson? A: Because he was caught sucking on a Squirt Q. What did Elvis say after seeing Michael and Lisa Marie on television? A. "Boy, that's a relief. I though she married a black guy!" Q. What was Michael Jackson thinking on his wedding night? A. "Now Lisa-Marie can give me a little boy of my own." Q. What were Lisa-Marie's newlywed complaints about Michael Jackson? A1. He leaves the lid off the mascara, causing it to dry out. A2. That battleaxe Liz Taylor never calls before she comes over. A3. She suspects he's using her to get to Elvis' bones. A4. He touches her kids more than he touches her. Q. Why did Michael Jackson cross the road? A. He saw someone blowing bubbles and thought he'd join in. Q. Why did Michael Jackson place a phone call to Boyz-2-Men? A. He thought it was a delivery service. Q: Why are Michael Jackson's pants so small? A: Because they aren't his! Q. How did Michael Jackson get in trouble? A. He was feeling a little Randy. Q. Why does Michael Jackson like children so much? A. He knows how they feel. Q. What did Michael Jackson say when he got back to Neverland Ranch from drug rehab? A. You know, I feel like a new boy! Q. How do we know Michael Jackson is guilty? A. Several children have fingered him. Q. Where does Michael Jackson go to find a date? A. Boys 'R Us. Q. Why is Michael Jackson so tough? A. He can lick any kid on the block. Knock Knock! Who's There? Little boy blue! Little boy blue who? Michael Jackson! Michael Jackson was on a ship with 100 cub scouts when it hit an iceberg and started to sink. The captain announced, "We're sinking! Everyone abandon ship!" Michael Jackson asked, "What about the children?" The captain replied, "Screw the children!" Michael Jackson looked around eagerly and said, "Do we have time?" A little boy goes up to his mother and asks, "Is God a male or a female?" After thinking for a moment, his mother responds, "Well, God is both a male and a female." This confuses the little boy, so he asks, "Is God black or white?" "Well, God is both black and white." At this, the boy's face lights up with understanding and he triumphantly asks, "Is Michael Jackson God?" The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but to make him a priest. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Fri Nov 21 00:20:04 2003): http://www.hoopee.com/myhoopee/article.asp?artID=3550 the expression on that guy's face is truely pricless _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak.zz (Thu Nov 20 08:39:23 2003): http://minivanssuck.com open for your enjoyment _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Thu Nov 20 04:28:35 2003): http://www.sbsheriff.org/jpg/pio/11200301.jpg gag _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Wed Nov 19 13:23:47 2003): http://www2.sjsu.edu/depts/english/2003.htm Check out the dishonorable mentions _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Wed Nov 19 05:49:57 2003): shutup you whiney bitches i'm trying to work on www.minivanssuck.com _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Wed Nov 19 05:49:42 2003): who fuckin cares? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Wed Nov 19 02:34:11 2003): When Red Murphy was named Coach of the Year, nobody was surprised, for Red had taken a last-place baseball team and made them into champions in just one year, and people said he turned more L's into W's than anybody since Barbara Walters tried to read the "Luke Luck licks lakes" pages in Dr. Seuss' "Fox in Socks." Brad Jolly Longmont, CO _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Tue Nov 18 08:52:07 2003): uh hey adam... go into members section->surfer chicks stuff->from surfer chick and download speed.jpg its a screenshot of a system with a 35 megabit line and a hotline client is running in the background.... looks like she or someone really did work at an ISP or something _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Mon Nov 17 23:41:13 2003): "On Friday, attendees of one conference session learned how to get access to telephone company caller ID systems. In front of a packed room of several hundred, a hacker calling himself "Lucky225" tricked several operators at Vancouver, British Columbia-based Telus Corp. , Canada's second largest telephone company, into giving him access to the network by saying simply, "I'm an engineer." haha. this is from last year but still funny _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Console_Cracker (Mon Nov 17 03:18:02 2003): religion isnt worthy of argument, your right. Im arguing about (and for) 'self'. :) _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Mon Nov 17 02:58:49 2003): I believe in swordfish _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Mon Nov 17 02:43:53 2003): it doesnt take a brain to argue religion _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Ciricon (Mon Nov 17 02:43:28 2003): It's starting to smell of burnt batteries with all this brainpower. :P _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Mon Nov 17 02:07:58 2003): Orb you're wrong if you follow someone your whole life you wont ever get where you want to go. Unless of course they're going where you want to go... however "god" isnt going my direction. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Console_Cracker (Sun Nov 16 23:31:22 2003): altruistic= Unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=altruistic) That has NOTHING to do with 'Christ'. Being selfless has nothing to do with anyone else but yourself. If you want anything done in this world, you have to do it yourself. Things don't 'just happen' by themselves. If you want anything in this world... you have to take it! No one is just going to hand everything to you. And you are somwhat right.... blind leading the blind is never good. But you are only blind if your directions are cloudy. I know where I came from, I know where I'm going and yes, I will lead the pack. But not as a leader, as an equal. I don't want ANYone to worship me. I know that I'm not devine. "we all come from the same compost heap" :p And how does humanity need a Jesus Christ? Being living beings, we KNOW whats right and wrong. We don't need a 'god' to tell us this. We don't need law makers, etc... what we need is self control and direction. Not some 'idol' to believe in. Its about knowing yourself, knowing your surroundings. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Sun Nov 16 18:40:21 2003): Any altruistic act is serving Christ. That's why he told the apostles 'anyone who is not against you is for you.' 'People who follow others dont believe in themselves'? Sure they do. Try telling that to someone in the army. Tell that to your boss at work. Or, if you're still young, try it out on your parents. Inability to accept authority is a weakness. 'Following the herd...' 'better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven'? Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth. It is folly for a blind man to lead another blind man. They will fall into a hole. Are you going to lead the herd? Are you going to get people to worship you like Pharaoh or Caesar? That's the blind leading the blind. Humanity needs Jesus Christ. No one else is worthy of leading the herd. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Console_Cracker (Sun Nov 16 15:39:37 2003): 'Serving Christ', huh? People who follow others, don't believe in themselves. Following the herd is for those who are too weak to lead the herd. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From og-netfreak (Sun Nov 16 07:38:26 2003): aha.. ahahahha... hahahahahah _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Sun Nov 16 07:09:53 2003): serving Christ is the only noble enterprise. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sun Nov 16 05:30:38 2003): "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Sun Nov 16 01:17:48 2003): If Infinity is infinity away from Zero, and Negative Infinity is the same, how far is infinity from negative infinity? If infinity represents neverending, how can you get infinity squared? But how can infinity be equally far away from zero than from it's negative counterpart? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Sat Nov 15 23:49:00 2003): I dream of a day when god isn't associated with a governing body or country in particular. I'm tired of hearing blah blah blah, this nation is "under God". romantic notions, and religious agendas.. will they ever stop _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak.zz (Sat Nov 15 11:14:19 2003): preterhuman.net is now searchable. boo yeah baby _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Fri Nov 14 09:49:57 2003): americans knew about 9/11 before it happened... and didnt warn you. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Fri Nov 14 05:06:21 2003): http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/09/20030901110558.shtml _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Fri Nov 14 03:54:47 2003): take off, eh _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Thu Nov 13 05:58:48 2003): uh, americans suck? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Euler (Thu Nov 13 05:57:52 2003): Why do we call Israel "our only ally in the Middle East", when they knew about 9-11 in advance and failed to warn us? http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j030802.html http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MCK311A.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html http://ww1.sundayherald.com/np/911mystery.shtml _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From cmetom (Wed Nov 12 07:45:34 2003): yay! i have 'net at home now! not only that, but cable 'net! woo hoo! ahh.. that's all i've got to say :D _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Wed Nov 12 06:02:32 2003): whats a file sharing program? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Wed Nov 12 03:38:39 2003): probably try a file sharing program of some sort but i've never seen them around _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From pfflam (Tue Nov 11 20:06:20 2003): Hi . . . Im new . . . but Im looking for some mp3s of Martin Heidegger lectures . . . Ive seen them on sale in Germany only Any ideas where I maight be able to find such an item? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J - needs an atx power suppl (Tue Nov 11 01:02:05 2003): thats nice solaris sucks on all the machines at school... also the gui sucks the cli sucks it just plain sucks _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Mon Nov 10 22:03:09 2003): solaris flys on my 44 MHz SPARC 10 _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J - needs an atx power suppl (Mon Nov 10 21:30:35 2003): Solaris is as slow clunky and shitty as windows. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Mon Nov 10 21:13:32 2003): My understanding was that they put NT in their options lineup just so they could say that they covered everything. Apple knew it would have been suicide to liscence their OS from Microsoft, and there was no way in hell they could buy it from them. It wasn't seriously thought of as a purchase option. They also had Solaris in there. That would have been interesting. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Mon Nov 10 06:06:27 2003): they even actually considered windows NT, considering NT 4 runs on PPCs. that wouldve been asking for suck. it wouldve been cool to see two versions of rhapsody developing at the same time, one that's Be based and the rhapsody we know as today _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Mon Nov 10 03:04:26 2003): Yeah. Be's whole idea was that once Apple woke up to the fact that Copland was going to fail they would go shopping for a new OS. It almost worked- apple was going to buy Be until Jobs got them hooked on OpenStep. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Mon Nov 10 02:00:11 2003): that reminds me, before apple bought next, the BeOS was a candidate for rhapsody, talks between apple and Be also happened. and it does have unix compatibility to some extent. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Sun Nov 9 20:04:37 2003): Be had no favor with the industry. It was a lost idea if you ask me. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Sun Nov 9 02:54:35 2003): Be may have succeeded if Microsoft hadn't had it's stranglehold on the PC industry in the late 90's. It still might have succeeded if it had managed to enter the world of the unices- if they had ported BSD APIs or something so that software could be recompiled on BeOS for use as a server/workstation/whatever. Once Apple bought NeXT, Be's place on the Macintosh was lost. If they had stuck around, they would never have been successful in convincing people to use BeOS instead of MacOS X. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm Hates Windows (Sun Nov 9 01:54:55 2003): Back in 1998 Apple didn't like them anymore with Steve back at the helm. the BeOS was considered a threat to the MacOS and I'm sure Be couldve figured it out for themselves (by looking at opensource bootloaders) but they probably feared a mean ol lawsuit _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Sat Nov 8 15:30:44 2003): It's hard for me to see Be not being able to find out this information on their own..Besides the good ol hacking method, I'm sure they have contacts at apple..old friends _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sat Nov 8 14:39:21 2003): ok i'm totally changing the historical film archive. it is now called the footage and film archive and will house any interesting stuff from 1900s to present. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm Hates Windows (Sat Nov 8 06:39:07 2003): name: Roba login: guest host: adsl-67-123-32-240.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net address: 67.123.32.240:4780 <<< Roba has left >>> <<< 11/8/2003 10:41:17 PM >>> that's right roba, suck it down _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm Hates Windows (Sat Nov 8 06:37:15 2003): Im not saying it cant be done, im saying Be wanted to bring to the original iMac but apple wouldnt release any technical info on the iMac, G3 or NewWorld booting so good luck _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Sat Nov 8 06:37:10 2003): Cisco netacad..... really why is there a need for a website to go down? 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The Academy Connection Team _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Roba (Sat Nov 8 04:45:01 2003): hahahahahha _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Sat Nov 8 02:56:19 2003): And that's your reason why it can't be done? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Sat Nov 8 01:12:12 2003): adam, no way in hell. BeOS works on almost any PCI based powermac before the G3 and above a 603. it works with some G3 upgrade cards. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Fri Nov 7 19:33:26 2003): http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003513313,00.html hahahahahahahahaha _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From kanazawa (Fri Nov 7 17:10:52 2003): nice docs here _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Fri Nov 7 01:23:05 2003): new world? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Fri Nov 7 01:07:39 2003): BeOS ran on powermacs before it ran on intel... out of the box, too. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Fri Nov 7 00:18:35 2003): From what I know, and people I've talked to, if you have the knowledge it is possible to hack it. I've talked to someone who has installed BeOS on a powermac. He had to debug it hardcore though. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Thu Nov 6 23:17:23 2003): Brick: It is horribly unlikely that Panther and future versions of MacOS X will ever run on old-world powermacs. The G4s and G5s really shouldn't be called Power Macintoshes... they're a new platform that inherited the name of the platform it replaced. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm Hates Windows (Thu Nov 6 04:51:02 2003): forget the Xdarwin installer version, I got the free version that uses a shell script and life is good now _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Wed Nov 5 02:09:12 2003): Adam.Atomical: IM SO AEWSOM31!11 WTF WORDS CANOT D3SCRIEB11111!1 OMG LOL _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Wed Nov 5 01:39:57 2003): someone do me a favor and upload Xdarwin 4.3 installer version into my drop box. ill give you free candy _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Firestorm.PBG4 (Wed Nov 5 01:00:48 2003): not bloody likely _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From TheBrick (Tue Nov 4 22:49:55 2003): Anyone able to install Panther on a G2 too yet? 8600s and 9600s? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Tue Nov 4 22:28:43 2003): the server now supports ciphers and compression and i think it will also do server side queing but dont quote me on that _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Tue Nov 4 21:23:08 2003): shxd finally crapped out so i'll compile the newest version. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Mon Nov 3 06:04:14 2003): thats ender apparently using SCs account _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Mon Nov 3 00:28:16 2003): From public chat: <<< Surfer Chick is now known as Ender >>> _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Sun Nov 2 01:38:51 2003): anyone who wanks it, and wanks it while it hurts is obviously doing something wrong _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sat Nov 1 23:45:10 2003): bullshit i already have most of those symptoms.. well not groin pain and shit _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Sat Nov 1 22:49:21 2003): http://www.herballove.com/library/resource/overmas/fatal.asp _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sat Nov 1 05:37:27 2003): whatup niggaz! we gots dis shizznit rollin like blunts in da morning. sum of yous be talkin shit bout dis culture and da rapper lifestyle but u all fakaz! you silly crackaz hidin behind da computer thinkin yous better than k0rpurut liecents THINK AGAIN!! da brothas runnin at you azz wit da gats be changin your tune! we's all abouts da korpurut biz now, rappin rhymes fo brothaz in da office wit 9-5 jobs. we gots to reprezent dat. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Fri Oct 31 04:47:32 2003): you fuckin whore i'm coming to your place right now. get ready for some masta pimp action cause GRANDMOTHA P IS ROCKIN DA SHACK YO _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Fri Oct 31 02:41:01 2003): Happy Halloween! I beat netfreak up and stole his candy. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Fri Oct 31 02:17:33 2003): fucking enter key puts a 3 at the end.. how gay is that3 _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Fri Oct 31 02:17:23 2003): Happy Halloween! I beat some kids up and took their candy. See you all later!3 _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Orbital Binary (Fri Oct 31 00:05:38 2003): Happy Haloween! Taking off to Vancouver for the weekend. See you all later! _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Thu Oct 30 00:27:31 2003): I lust for pro tools. If anyone has a working version with krack, either contact me here, on aim as siradamh, or email.. siradamh@hotmail.com or here or you could upload it to my fucking dropbox _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Ender (Wed Oct 29 22:07:34 2003): I am not sure who is posing as SurferChick, but im told someone (other than me) has used this account. if you have proof of this on a log please email me freeventure@hotmail.com _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Wed Oct 29 06:30:06 2003): heh i dunno why we even have that.3 _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Ciricon [iMac Dv 450+] (Tue Oct 28 20:06:13 2003): No worries, I saw DP 4 in the members section and just wondered. I'm trying to dig up really old stuff. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Tue Oct 28 06:01:25 2003): nope _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Ciricon [iMac Dv 450+] (Mon Oct 27 23:26:03 2003): Netfreak do you want Mac OS X DP 1-3? I'm also putting up System 7.1, HyperCard and a few others. :) _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Mon Oct 27 03:28:26 2003): man its weird seeing how many places had links to preterhuman's literature section. i had blogs written about it.. i had articles about it. i had webboard postings linking to it... thats probably why i got harassed for the copyrights _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sun Oct 26 02:08:09 2003): http://www.zipperfish.com/free/quiz/likejailbait.html i failed. heh... _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sun Oct 26 01:52:42 2003): yeah we had a bunch of retarded people standing outside the store looking annoyed because they thought we were late opening. they could have taken a clue by looking at all the other closed stores.... _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox.afk (Sat Oct 25 20:55:13 2003): Just a reminder of the daylight savings time change today: fall back one hour (ie: 1:00pm is now 12:00 noon). _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sat Oct 25 17:50:05 2003): i'm just going to tell them there was no such file ever uploaded or downloaded. i did that last time there were some fake complaints and they left me alone _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Angelina (Sat Oct 25 13:57:53 2003): hi! how high? (intellect I mean) _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Ciricon [iMac Dv 450+] (Sat Oct 25 09:57:08 2003): Bean.avi could be anything, and Telus cannot take direct action unless they have proof or are handed a warrant for your information. Tell Telus that as a server on the business account, your servers exchange hundreds of files a day, many of which are on various protocals, but Bean.avi is hardly conclusive. Further mention to them that upon proof of which machine offended the AUP (Acceptable use Policy) and you will investigate further on thier behalf. You cannot take responsibilty for a public server that offers information via multiple protocals. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sat Oct 25 06:57:11 2003): fucking dicks... somehow a complaint was sent to telus quoting my IP and the filename BEAN.AVI on bittorrent or some shit. i'm gonna have fun telling telus to stop harassing me _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Mr J (Sat Oct 25 05:05:09 2003): http://mezzanotte.ath.cx/vmwarescreenshot.jpg _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Sat Oct 25 04:15:13 2003): OK PEOPLE! i enabled download access on the view account. please be warned that anyone downloading may be subject to disconnection. donating for an account will end the madness. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From netfreak (Fri Oct 24 03:05:17 2003): ari: data cable. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox (Thu Oct 23 01:56:13 2003): Yes this Slim Shady box is somehow getting in here... didn't we once have a mechanism for keeping those annoying bots out? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Ari (Thu Oct 23 01:17:15 2003): i see you guys got cell phone stuff here i'm looking for a way to put games and ringtones and pictures onto my motorola t-730 phone, any help? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Wed Oct 22 16:43:39 2003): <<< Slim Shady has joined >>> <<< 10/23/2003 10:48:20 AM >>> <<< Slim Shady is now known as vlack-work >>> <<< vlack-work has left >>> <<< 10/23/2003 10:48:21 AM >>> . . . ? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox.afk (Wed Oct 22 01:55:41 2003): Zak: agnosticism is a cop-out too. People resolve this issue all the time. I did. Adam: As far as claimants to prophetic status go, Muhammed doesn't have a whole lot going for him. He was an excellent politician and military leader, though. Basically he said that the archangel Michael met him while he was alone in a cave one day and put the Qu'ran into his head (he was illiterate). Then he got kicked out of his hometown, went over to the next town and settled some big local dispute, got proclaimed to be ruler, converted everyone to his budding religion based on whatever of the Qu'ran he decided to dictate from the divinely-inserted text in his head at any given time, then set up a military theocracy to take over his hometown, his whole country, and much of the territory of the weakened Persian and Byzantine Empires (which were exhausted from fighting each other at this point). Whew, run-on sentence. That's about the gist of how Islam came to be, though. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Zak (Tue Oct 21 23:10:36 2003): From mr. seduction (Tue Oct 21 02:46:37 2003): >"but you will never be able to come up with anything that is able to disprove the existence of God" > >we have a conflicting point of view here. from my angle, i will never be able to come up with anything that is able to PROVE the existence of god. And this should end the argument; there is no conclusive proof either way. This debate will NEVER be resolved. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Tue Oct 21 22:53:27 2003): "but you will never be able to come up with anything that is able to disprove the existence of God" You will never be able to disprove allah either Some bitch at my school today actually had the nerve to say that she thought Muhammed was a liar.. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox.afk (Tue Oct 21 20:44:12 2003): [hx] join: Slim Shady [hx] Slim Shady is now known as orb@fusebox.afk [hx] parts: orb@fusebox.afk Would the real Slim Shady please stand up? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox.afk (Tue Oct 21 20:26:17 2003): Faith... It is absurd to say that one should believe something without reason. To believe something, one must say that they have sufficient reason to believe. After that, through experience, a person can find greater number and quality of reasons to believe, even to the point of being undeniable. Jesus said "wisdom is proven to be true by what results from it." _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Tue Oct 21 16:39:12 2003): ...depending on your definition of faith that is. I "have faith" in God, but I do not believe in Him blindly... I believe in Him because I cannot see any other way for the world to work. My definition of faith: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." (Hebrews 11.1). _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Tue Oct 21 16:30:52 2003): Faith is not required to believe that there is a God; only a mind that is willing to be intellectually honest. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Tue Oct 21 08:02:32 2003): faith is bogus _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox.afk (Tue Oct 21 07:55:43 2003): Relativism is a cop-out. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Tue Oct 21 07:16:41 2003): god does not exist for me. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox.afk (Tue Oct 21 06:19:19 2003): If I must repeat myself: "Absolute proof [...] is not necessary [...] So, what is all this wasted breath over proof?" _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Tue Oct 21 02:46:37 2003): "but you will never be able to come up with anything that is able to disprove the existence of God" we have a conflicting point of view here. from my angle, i will never be able to come up with anything that is able to PROVE the existence of god. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Tue Oct 21 01:50:07 2003): God has a place in your relationships, marriage, etc. How often have I heard the sermon.. You ignore god, you don't spend enough time with god, you neglect him because you get busy with your own life. I'm saying that this sort of stuff is human. People do with their time what they are want. It's perfectly normal. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox.afk (Tue Oct 21 01:01:00 2003): Humanism is not atheism; it's a renaissance idea (also a classical presumption, imho) that contrasts the medieval idea of humans being empty vessels and this world being simply transitory and deserving only of treatment as such. It's a school of thought where human endeavors have value and this world should be considered more important than a simple transitory stage between birth and Heaven. Being around other people (spouse, friends, anyone) does not take time away from God. The contrary is true- the best time that you spend with God is when you are with other people. You minister to and care for each other, building up faith and goodness. Jesus said that where any two of his people are gathered, he is there among them. God has a place in your marriage, your family, your dating relationships, your friendships, your relations with strangers, and your confrontations with enemies. It's a fallacy to be without God at any time. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Tue Oct 21 00:20:22 2003): Without sin there wouldn't be a world. ^-- how does that work again? If the world was created by God, then sin couldn't have been a part of the plan in the first place. I would definitely argue that the world was created by God, and therefore, without sin, the world would not only exist, it would be *better*. To have a family means to sacrifice some of your time with god. ^-- Just like being with friends is "sacrificing" time with your wife (or husband). However, you can still honor your wife when you're with your friends, by holding her in high esteem... in the same way, you do (kind of) "sacrifice" direct time with God when having a family, but you can also honor Him with your family. Our world functions on sin. ^-- This is a true statement in one respect, that a lot of the world bases everything on sin. However, this does not mean that the world would not be better for no sin to be existing. If you're calling it "humanism", then you're making a completely different statement. By calling it sin, you say that there is a God, and that our actions are wrong in his eyes. On the other hand, if you call it humanism, you deny the existance of God, and you claim that there is nothing wrong with the actions in the first place. If there is no God, then you're correct, there *wouldn't* be anything wrong with "humanist" actions. On the other hand, if there *is* a God - and I would argue strongly that there is - then "humanist" actions that are sinful are morally wrong, and the humanist idea that there is no God is incorrect. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Mon Oct 20 23:28:58 2003): Without sin there wouldn't be a world. To have a family means to sacrifice some of your time with god. Our world functions on sin. If that's what you want to call it. I'd rather call it humanism. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Mon Oct 20 21:30:49 2003): /me thinks about it a bit longer... Let me clarify my position a bit, if you would: God does not plan for us to sin. However, He allows it if we choose it. Whether or not you'd call that "going against God's plan", I don't know, but that's what happens. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Mon Oct 20 19:54:16 2003): orb: Hmm... yeah, I agree with those statements. I still disagree with Gwathant Gelydh, tho. "Predestination" would still imply that it's God's *plan* for us to go against God, which is just as dumb. God may incorporate the knowledge of our sin into His plan, however, that doesn't mean that our sin IS His plan. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox.afk (Mon Oct 20 17:39:31 2003): >I would say that all things to *not* follow God's plan. God's plan does not involve sin/disobedience of any kind, yet those things still happen. If they happen, God plans for them. The 'Great Master Plan for the Universe' obviously includes allowing us to use our free will to sin. Wouldn't it make sense if the plan is designed to cope with every possible choice you make? Since God is infinitely intelligent, there is no reason why he couldn't plan for an infinite number of possibilities. The tossed around phrase 'going against God's plan' really isn't very accurate; sinning is going against *God*. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Mon Oct 20 16:37:27 2003): Gwathant Gelydh: If I understand you correctly, I'm afraid I disagree. God has not predestined us to accept or reject what He has done for us. And, predestination *does* matter, because it is an intrinsic part of God's character. If God really *did* predestine some of humanity to Hell, giving them no choice, etc, then how can He love all of humanity? And, if God does not love all of humanity, then He is a liar, because He *says* that He loves all of humanity. I would say that all things to *not* follow God's plan. God's plan does not involve sin/disbedience/whatever of any kind, yet those things still happen. If His plan did in volve those things, then there would be no problem with "going against God's plan", AKA sinning/disobeying, because it would be God's plan for us to go against God's plan... and that's just dumb. ^_^ You're right: the issue of predestination gives many Christians fits, and it also turns away many nonchristians. It's also not what the Bible teaches about God... to accept that is to ignore hundreds of verses and passages which are very clear: God loves every human. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox.afk (Mon Oct 20 08:57:23 2003): Perfect 1) without defect; faultless. 2) completely skilled; expert. 3) having all its parts; complete. 4) entire; utter. -The Senior Dictionary of Canadian English. Arguing semantics takes more time than it's worth, and in the end it is seldom satisfying. Anyways, lots of people have tried to create a logic box that disproves the existence of God. None of them work. You can learn as much as you possibly can, get PhDs in every field of study and debate ad infinitum with the best scholars of every field, but you will never be able to come up with anything that is able to disprove the existence of God. People have tried all that and more. God has made himself too available to humans to be ignored. Absolute proof of his existence in creation (other than creation itself, but thats another argument) is not necessary: people are sufficiently motivated to discuss him, investigate him, and MAKE CONTACT with him regardless. So, what is all this wasted breath over proof? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox.afk (Mon Oct 20 08:25:27 2003): Nf, where are you getting all these little lists from anyway? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From catmonkey (Mon Oct 20 03:28:27 2003): You requested a graphic artist. What sort of work do you want done? I can be contacted: catmonkey@earthlink.net before 10/31/03. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Mon Oct 20 01:56:39 2003): my ELF II antique computer is on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2760738656 _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Gwathant Gelydh (Mon Oct 20 01:26:55 2003): God, being omniscient and omnipotent, has predestined all things and all things follow Gods plan. Man, not being an omniscient being, does not know God's plan and thus, although predestined to choose one way, must still "make" the choice and thus has free-will. It is a paradox. One non-Christians will automatically reject, and one that gives many Christians fits. And while it is a major point, in the end it is faith that matters not predestination. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Sun Oct 19 22:34:57 2003): haha boo fuckin yeah. that speeding ticket i decided not to pay was reviewed by ICBC and ruled to be invalid. whoop i get to keep my license for now _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Sun Oct 19 21:26:49 2003): i'm sticking with #7 _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Sun Oct 19 20:58:01 2003): 4&5) This is untrue. I have a choice: I can type the letter "a" here. I chose. I knew that if I hit the "a" key, that the letter "a" would appear on the screen; I knew that if I did not hit the "a" key, the letter "a" would not appear on the screen. I knew, I had no "state of uncertainty", and I still made a choice. God's situation is similar. He knows that in His master program, things will happen a certain way - that doesn't mean that He cannot choose which way things will happen. The fact that He allows the choices of others to enter His plan, and at the same time knows what they will be, does not negate the fact that God is choosing, and God is allowing choice. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Sun Oct 19 20:43:07 2003): 1.) The Christian God is a personal being and is omniscient. 2.) Personal beings have free will.(according to most Christians) 3.) To have freewill, a personal being must be able to make a choice. 4.) A being who knows everything can have no "state of uncertainty". It knows its choices in advance. 5.) God has no potential to avoid its choices, and therefore has no free will. 6.) Since a being that lacks free will is not a personal being, a personal being who knows everything cannot exist. 7.) Therefore, the Christian God does not exist. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Sun Oct 19 20:14:26 2003): 1) No, He doesn't. ^_^ (or perhaps more correctly, "He does have a plan, but He allows it to be changed.") _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Sun Oct 19 20:09:15 2003): 1.) God has an unchangeable plan for everything past, present & future. 2.) Everything that occurs past, present and future will be part of God's unchanging plan. 3.) Thoughts and actions occur and are part of God's unchanging plan. 4.) Thoughts and actions cannot be anything other than what God has planned. 5.) Free-will doesn't exist. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Sun Oct 19 20:04:14 2003): "1.) God knows infallibly what will occur in the Universe before it occurs." "2.) God can’t change the future because he knows everything absolutely." "3.) God has no Free-will." 2) -- wtf? He can change it... its like, say, program you're coding. God codes a program (aka His "master plan", or whatever you want to call it). He knows that changing a particular string of characters will DO something. That doesn't mean that he CAN'T do it, or that He has no choice in the matter. That's like saying that a person has no free will because he knows what will happen if/when he puts his hand on a hot stove - the choice is there, it's just a choice based upon knowledge. ----- 1.) God's love is superlative. 2.) God's love of man exceeds man's love of self. 3.) Man's love of self prohibits torture. 4.) Considering God's greater love for us, Hell (eternal torture) is illogical. This series of logic would be correct, IF God does not allow man free will. Because if God does allow man free will, AND God allows man a way out of Hell (Jesus Christ's death & resurrection, etc), then it would be conceivable for God to loves us. God loves us. He also gives us the ability to choose. If God didn't give us the ability to choose, who would He be loving, anyway? It's like "loving" a rock (or perhaps like "loving" an IRC bot). ----- "The quality or state of being perfect or complete, so that nothing requisite is wanting.. entire development, consummate culture, skill, or moral excellence..." Needing and wanting are two different things. God "needs" nothing for His existence. However, His existence is such that He has created humanity... and humanity is like a program, but a program that utilizes *human input*. God *could* have created a program that required no human input, thereby making no humans, or making all humans robotic entities, but He chose to do it this way instead, because He wanted to. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Sun Oct 19 19:09:32 2003): (Comments: P4 could be denied, however once we look at what the definition of what perfection is the argument holds: Perfection: 'The quality or state of being perfect or complete, so that nothing requisite is wanting.. entire development, consummate culture, skill, or moral excellence...' - Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.) _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Sun Oct 19 19:08:31 2003): 1.) God's love is superlative. 2.) God's love of man exceeds man's love of self. 3.) Man's love of self prohibits torture. 4.) Considering God's greater love for us, Hell (eternal torture) is illogical. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Sun Oct 19 19:08:17 2003): 1.) God knows infallibly what will occur in the Universe before it occurs. 2.) God can’t change the future because he knows everything absolutely. 3.) God has no Free-will. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From vlack-work (Sun Oct 19 16:58:22 2003): 4.) To be perfect, one cannot have any needs or wants. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=perfect: 1) Lacking nothing essential to the whole; complete of its nature or kind. 2) Being without defect or blemish: a perfect specimen. (These are two of 10 definitions (note that the web site skips a number 5, for some reason)... these seemed to be the most relevant.) 1) Using the first definition, it could be said that God must be without needs, however, this one doesn't say anything about wants. Why couldn't God want something? 2) In the second definition, any type of object can be "perfect". My web site can be "perfect" if it is without error/defect/etc. God can be perfect, without defect/error/whatever. not sure why you would say that no one can have needs or wants and still be "perfect". It doesn't seem to be in the definition anywhere... _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction is zzz (Sun Oct 19 10:14:47 2003): well... almost got t-boned on the driver side by some fucks who decided to just speed through a red light. funny, they were high on weed too. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction is working (Sun Oct 19 02:17:45 2003): hmm cool _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Ciricon [iMac Dv 450+] (Sun Oct 19 01:57:48 2003): Netfreak, I snagged a copy of AUX 2.0. Once it's done downloading I'm gonna upload it. It's under 100MB. Score one for the archives. :) _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox (Sun Oct 19 00:08:28 2003): it's occured to me that, if I really wanted to piss of my roommates before I leave, I could download a few gigabytes of crap and get their cable disconnected by Shaw. too bad I'm not evil eh? ;) _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox (Sat Oct 18 21:30:34 2003): Is that your new girlfriend? ;) _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Adam.Atomical (Sat Oct 18 19:31:29 2003): http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=KSGLSYA _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction is zzz (Sat Oct 18 18:20:24 2003): i dont have any mail server running on the server _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Evil Radio (Sat Oct 18 13:02:05 2003): Im going be around abit again too, Just thought I'd say hi. and netfreak does your php setup accept the mail command? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Hotzy (Fri Oct 17 19:30:24 2003): hi all, Long time no see. I uploaded some desktop pics (just fun mac related ones, no biggy) cause I was bored and dropped in. take care. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox (Fri Oct 17 19:10:56 2003): We are now ROCKING!!! YES! >:D _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Fri Oct 17 03:22:15 2003): we are now rocking a new 120 gig drive. i'll prolly keep most of the server on the 80 gig and copy the other servers and the text file archive to the new drive. if/when we fill up the 80 i'll move more stuff over _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction is working (Thu Oct 16 16:23:53 2003): the 120gb drive arrives today. server will be down for a bit tonight around 6-7pm _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From Maccabeo (Thu Oct 16 10:54:54 2003): Uploaded RISCiX (UNIX for Acorn Archimedes R series) and RiscOS 3.11. Enjoy :-)) _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From khemfusion (Thu Oct 16 01:51:39 2003): perfect - Lacking nothing essential to the whole _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From TheBrick (Wed Oct 15 19:36:23 2003): -> rezz What about pancakes? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From rezz (Wed Oct 15 17:29:19 2003): Admin: congratulations on this site. Anything I could contribute with ? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox (Wed Oct 15 07:11:10 2003): please ignore the gramatically incorrect instance of 'would' in paragraph 2, sentence 2. thx. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From orb@fusebox (Wed Oct 15 07:05:39 2003): 4.) To be perfect, one cannot have any needs or wants. Untrue. To be perfect, one must love other people. Therefore, one who is perfect must want others to exist. This notion of perfection professed in your seven theses is in itself imperfect. To be wholly without needs or wants would, in the context of disproving a divine want to create, is to be wholly satisfied in and of one's self, and that is pride - an imperfection. If you take that fourth thesis from the seven and express it by itself, it would suggest that, if the perfect being is without want or need, then it would also be without want or need of itself. Can a being that does not want or need itself be described as perfect? _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction (Wed Oct 15 04:54:58 2003): 1.) God, by definition, is a perfect being. 2.) God, by definition, deliberately created the universe. 3.) So, if God were to exist, then he would be a perfect being who deliberately created something. 4.) To be perfect, one cannot have any needs or wants. 5.) To deliberately create something, one must have at least one need or want. 6.) Thus, it is impossible for a perfect being to deliberately create anything. 7.) Therefore, God cannot exist. _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ From mr. seduction is zzz (Tue Oct 14 16:26:29 2003): news cleaned. yay we'll hopefully have our 120gb drive today _____________[ higher intellect ]________________ higher intellect est. 07/1/01 or so.. ip: preterhuman.net connection: 2.5mbit/670kbit machine: amd k6-2/500 (illusion) rules: -be nice -no kicking chatting guests -no idiots -donate money or hardware -users of download bots get permanently firewalled guests may be subject to random disconnections due to bandwidth needs. this can be avoided by donating to the server for an account.