From AFV (*) (Apr12 18:34): read this..... THIS IS THE ACTUAL CONVERSATION BETWEEN JACK MECH AND FATHERDIME ON DIME'S SERVER, 9:00 p.m. ON WEDNESDAY APRIL 9...IT IS VERY INTERESTING AND COULD TEACH YOU ALOT...THANKS -ÄŒtherDime ÄŒtherDime: Ok... JackMech : I can't stay for too long. Got lotsa homework. ÄŒtherDime: so what happened? JackMech : FYI JackMech : I got a letter saying, we're investigating you. ÄŒtherDime: really? JackMech : Yep. I got it in Math class. ÄŒtherDime: I heard you got a $200,000 fine and were in jail JackMech : Heh JackMech : Actually it was 1 Million and I got the death penatly ÄŒtherDime: so...did youerase everything? ÄŒtherDime: you erase...sorry JackMech : Nope. Still got it all. =) ÄŒtherDime: all your files? ÄŒtherDime: cool ÄŒtherDime: is it in hiding? JackMech : Yeah, I guess. ÄŒtherDime: are you ever going to start the server agian? JackMech : I don't have a connection and if I did, I WOULDN't be running a server on it. JackMech : Nope. ÄŒtherDime: hehe...Damn JackMech : Tough luck. JackMech : =) ÄŒtherDime: Well, do you think you could spare anything for an oldtime friend? JackMech : What do you mean? JackMech : You want an account. (heh) ÄŒtherDime: Like a HD? ÄŒtherDime: Something I can store info on? ÄŒtherDime: I could probably give you a little cash JackMech : Heh. Whatever. I'd say the only thing I can spare is some advice. It really isn't worth it. I've realized that now. JackMech : I got some little internal thingy. JackMech : Not sure exactly how big. ÄŒtherDime: really? you got a shit load of $$$ though ÄŒtherDime: didn't you? JackMech : Not really. ÄŒtherDime: How much, do you think? Total? ÄŒtherDime: Damn dude, when I heard that rumor, I was so sad for you JackMech : Roughly $700, but I also got caught. You couldn't raise anything near that without being stupid. i.e. Me. ÄŒtherDime: cool... ÄŒtherDime: I think that I will be private ÄŒtherDime: so shit like that wont happen JackMech : It's just not worth it. Don't put your address on things. And don't ask for money, and don't get anything over 1 GB. ÄŒtherDime: so...What do you think will happen to you in the future? JackMech : Not much. I have to write a 20+ page paper. ÄŒtherDime: are you gonna be in hella trouble, or did it blow over? JackMech : And sign a contract. ÄŒtherDime: for? JackMech : They also took all the extra stuff I got. ÄŒtherDime: What extra stuff? ÄŒtherDime: Like your hardware? JackMech : They makin me write a 20 page paper on Piracy. Most of the HW and $ I got. ÄŒtherDime: damn...How do they know that you didn't buy it? JackMech : I told them. JackMech : Honesty is the best policy. =) ÄŒtherDime: And that is all that happened...? Geez, did they interrogate you? ÄŒtherDime: I would have been shitting bricks... JackMech : I didn't even really talk to them. If I hadn't been here at college I might be in jail right now. ÄŒtherDime: damn... ÄŒtherDime: So, after the report, do you have to do anything else? JackMech : Yeah, dude. Just be a recieve not a giver, if anything. JackMech : Nope. JackMech : I may get in trouble from the school. Their honor code or whatever ÄŒtherDime: yup... ÄŒtherDime: that shit doesn't matter...The jail shit would JackMech : Yeah. It'll be okay, but I really learned something. What a lessson. ÄŒtherDime: Damn, scary. Do you have any idea how much space is on that little drive? Would you be willing to send? ÄŒtherDime: What are you? 19, 20 ? FBI at this age, will it go on a record? What are you studying to be? JackMech : I'm guessing about 200 MB. If you wanna buy it that's cool. Otherwise I'm gonna try and sell it to a used part person. ÄŒtherDime: Go ahead and do that, I am getting a Jaz pretty soon JackMech : I'm 19. It's not on my prem. record. and I'm into computer science JackMech : Cool. JackMech : Yeah, I wouldn't go online with that Jaz. JackMech : IMHO ÄŒtherDime: prem? JackMech : Perm. JackMech : permanent ÄŒtherDime: shit...will that hurt you? ÄŒtherDime: Badly? JackMech : It's NOT on my record. So no. It won't hurt. =) ÄŒtherDime: See, I am just wondering this for my own safety, know what I mean... ÄŒtherDime: oh...=) JackMech : Yeah. Just don't offer. I mean really. Why do it? JackMech : Why do you do it? ÄŒtherDime: I will be a Cardiologist, cant screw my life up with petty computer shit JackMech : Exactly. And this is a good way to get in real deep. ÄŒtherDime: I figure, why stop? But until i heard of your situation, I have had second thoughts JackMech : Good. JackMech : Second thoughts are there for a reason. ÄŒtherDime: I know... ÄŒtherDime: scary shit... ÄŒtherDime: everyone with a server is scared shitless now JackMech : I mean, sure. You may not get caught. But it's not impossible. These people ARE on hotline. You could get caught. And if you did, could you deal with it? ÄŒtherDime: everyone has been hounding my ass off asking what happened to you JackMech : You can copy this chat for em. ÄŒtherDime: exactly what I am going to do JackMech : As long as you don't ask for money and you don't give out your address and you don't get too big you should be okay. ÄŒtherDime: yes...I am sure i could deal with it AudioAveª : Hey are you ok JackMech ÄŒtherDime: But the money is nice... JackMech : My big problem was that I was way too popular. EVERYONE know about me. ÄŒtherDime: Audio, I will post this chat for everyone ÄŒtherDime: this is our conversation now, listen if you like ÄŒtherDime: I know JackMech : The money is nice. How does Jail sound? How about $100,000 per file on your server? ÄŒtherDime: Is that what it is? ÄŒtherDime: How come you didn't get barred with this fine? JackMech : I mean, that's EXACTLY where I'd be if I hadn't been at this school. They told me flat out, "If you weren't at the school, we would have gone ahead with legal action." JackMech : Meaning I would be up shit creek without a paddle. ÄŒtherDime: See jack, my ploy is that I am a Back-up server only. People pay $10 to use my service, and I am not responsible for any other activity whatsoever... JackMech : It could work, but then it also couldn't and then what. Charging money is what puts you in deep shit. The money is what makes the law work. If you don't go for money, they don't have much for you. JackMech : I don't know. I mean, your parents might be fined. These people are totally serious. ÄŒtherDime: But, what gives them the right to tell me that I am not running a business here? ÄŒtherDime: did they present themselves like Migruff the warez sniffing crime dogs? Like pricks with big chips on their shoulders? JackMech : You are running a business selling other people software. That's exactly where they get you. I know you say "backup" but nobody's tested that and it may not work. ÄŒtherDime: you are definetly right... ÄŒtherDime: I just hope I don't get a letter ÄŒtherDime: I have given my address out thousands of times... ÄŒtherDime: =( JackMech : They ar serious. It may look like they're not because I only have to write a paper. But they are. The school's lawyer is what saved me. They would've killed me if I didn't have him. ÄŒtherDime: I took after you JackMech : Exactly what is bad. ÄŒtherDime: Whadda you mean by that? JackMech : I mean if I was just some guy with a T1 offering files from my house I'd be in deep deep shit right now. There'd be no little paper for me. other than the letter calling me to court. ÄŒtherDime: I'm beginning to think I should stop all activity right now... JackMech : Just the warez activity. JackMech : Chatting is still okay. =) ÄŒtherDime: That just isn't worth the stuff I get from various people JackMech : Leave the serving to other people JackMech : Exactly my point. It really isn't JackMech : Let someone else get in trouble. =) ÄŒtherDime: really? ÄŒtherDime: that's it? ÄŒtherDime: hehe JackMech : Well copy this chat and pass it out to people. =) JackMech : Yeah. ÄŒtherDime: I will! Thank you for all your help! JackMech : No prob. ÄŒtherDime: bye, I will e-mail you from time to time just to say hi ÄŒtherDime: And stop in whenever...Do you want an account? For when I go private? JackMech : Great JackMech : login/pass = ******/******* ---->Censored ÄŒtherDime: with the caps? JackMech : Yeash JackMech : yeah ÄŒtherDime: you are now full admin JackMech : Thanks ÄŒtherDime: I will see you around Mark JackMech : Well, I gotta go. I'll be back sometime. ÄŒtherDime: bye... JackMech : Bye Bill