Asri-unix.1381 net.works utzoo!decvax!cca!CAULKINS@USC-ECL@sri-unix Sun May 2 23:41:22 1982 Cost Driven Architectures I (Dave Caulkins) am the manager of the data processing facilities for a small SF Peninsula startup; we have a V7 UNIX running in an Onyx and a CP/M based system running in a Dirac, manufactured by Molecular Engineering. It's this last machine I'd like to talk about. Its architecture is interesting - a 34MB hard disk with a smart controller, talking to up to 32 Z80-with-65K-RAM processors via a parallel CSMA bus. See the Dirac Description below for detailed size and cost numbers. Each user gets his own processor and 65K, and in consequence adding users doesn't degrade performance nearly as much as in a system in which one central processor dances around among 8 - 32 users. We've done some loading studies, and under medium load conditions (15 users all working with files >65K via an editor) the users-vs-response-time curve is almost flat. Under high load conditions (each user requsting a large number of disk accesses per second) the curve is roughly linear from 3 out to 15 users. The Dirac doesn't quite make it. CP/M is nice in that there is a great deal of 3rd party software available, some of which is good quality (caveat emptor !). The CP/M file structure is painfully primitive and hard to work with. I think an attractive architecture would be as follows: A UNIX based multiprocessor with 68000-and-512K per user, with 80 - 160 MB of common hard disk available to all users. The 68000-and-512K ought to be doable for less than $2K. Such a system should offer a very attractive multi-user work station environment for a lot less than CEI, Fortune, or others of the $5K standalone UNIX workstation flavor. Standalone devices have a significant part of their cost in the case, keyboard, CRT, and other non-computer elements. The terminal manufacturers are beginning to do reasonable designs and realize good economies of scale; seems to me that the natural division between workstation terminal and computational resources offers real cost adavantages. Does anyone know of a company that has or is planning a system like this ? Dirac Description Cost: $15K for the basic box - 34MB disk, disk controller, power supplies, 8" floppy drive and slots for 32 Application Processors (APs); one required for each user. APs cost $1K each, less in quantity. The AP price is rather high - manufacturing cost is certainly well under $200. Size: basic box - 24" high x 12.5" wide x 31" deep. AP - 4" x 9"; 44 ICs This may be where Dirac went astray. They put a lot of effort in making the system quite small; the AP board is very tight. I for one wouldn't mind a system 2X or 3X as big, but with the enhanced capability discussed above. ------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- gopher://quux.org/ conversion by John Goerzen of http://communication.ucsd.edu/A-News/ This Usenet Oldnews Archive article may be copied and distributed freely, provided: 1. There is no money collected for the text(s) of the articles. 2. The following notice remains appended to each copy: The Usenet Oldnews Archive: Compilation Copyright (C) 1981, 1996 Bruce Jones, Henry Spencer, David Wiseman.